austin aquarium

[polarbear]

I understand what you’re saying. I have killed a few fish and corals during my saltwater years but that’s different then opening up a huge aquarium to the public just to make a profit. If you’re going to open up an aquarium your first concern should be the animals not how cool the place can be and look to attract people. As for local fish stores, I don’t shop at stores that push you to buy something just so they can sell it. Trust me I have gone to plenty of stores in San Antonio and Austin (I use to live there) and asked about certain fish and corals that I already knew about just to see if they would try to sell it to me. That’s how I know if the people there care about the livestock. I don’t visit the stores that JUST try to sell me stuff.

plenty of reefers have those same issues... I know some shops that can. Be considered felons with as much livestock gets murdered weekly....... Wheres the uproar? We still support them too....

[polarbear]

I agree. Just becuase I sell a coral to another reefer doesnt mean Im doing it just for profit. I rather buy from fellow reefers becuase the corals and fish seem better.

Cutting Corals, if done responsible though is a good thing. The more people who frag out of their tanks, even if it is for profit, the better it is on our delicate ecosystem in the Ocean.

[350gt]

Cutting Corals, if done responsible though is a good thing. The more people who frag out of their tanks, even if it is for profit, the better it is on our delicate ecosystem in the Ocean.

My point was its main intention is profit!!.... And if you ever owned a frag tank, you have losses.... It just happens sometimes...


if it was for preservation, they would be given away for free.... Not sold per polyp:

oh and i have nothing wrong with buying frags from reefers, i just have issues with those who contradict themselves.... ;)

[350gt]

I understand what you’re saying. I have killed a few fish and corals during my saltwater years but that’s different then opening up a huge aquarium to the public just to make a profit. If you’re going to open up an aquarium your first concern should be the animals not how cool the place can be and look to attract people. As for local fish stores, I don’t shop at stores that push you to buy something just so they can sell it. Trust me I have gone to plenty of stores in San Antonio and Austin (I use to live there) and asked about certain fish and corals that I already knew about just to see if they would try to sell it to me. That’s how I know if the people there care about the livestock. I don’t visit the stores that JUST try to sell me stuff.

well i never believe what i read 100%... Articles are sometimes blown out of proportion to get readers... If the courts dont find nothing wrong with these guys, i dont see why anyone wouldnt visit.....

[polarbear]

I respect your opinions but please take the time to read the articles. Courts have found things wrong with these guys. Here is a passagefrom one of the articles. Why would he sign anything if he was innocent?

Ammon Covino recently signed a plea agreement, reversing the not-guilty plea heentered in April to purchasing spotted eagle rays and lemon sharks withoutnecessary permits, said Thomas Austin Watts-Fitzgerald, a lawyer with the U.S.attorney’s office in Florida. The animals were for aquariums that the Covinosrun in Idaho and Oregon.

[350gt]

As i respect yours.....

But if thats all the court has on him, i dont see it as a big deal... Where are all the dead animals?

Sometimes you sign stuff in court to take a lesser sentence... Even if you are semi guilty..... Believe me :/

[polarbear]

ok

[jrossjr79]

My point was its main intention is profit!!.... And if you ever owned a frag tank, you have losses.... It just happens sometimes...


if it was for preservation, they would be given away for free.... Not sold per polyp:

oh and i have nothing wrong with buying frags from reefers, i just have issues with those who contradict themselves.... ;)

True I dont have a frag tank, but yes there will be losses, and sometimes there is or was nothing you can do about it. But a Marine Biologist had mention most of those deaths could have been prevented through proper care and QT procedures. These two brothers totally ignored this biologist's recommendations. SO to me this is pure profit on their mind and not about the care needed for these creatures. It be one thing if they are trying to make a profit and at the same time taking care of their livestock, they are cutting cost as much as they can with out any care in the world the outcome it would be to their livestock.

Giving away for free is near impossible, unless you can afford the care of such creatures with out breaking the bank. Takes time, and money to keep livestock healthy. Most hobbyist that have frag tanks are not making any profit, they are just less denting the expenses in their pockets. Not saying there are those out there that dont make a profit.

But to take it out of context and put into another, Our food is a neccisty, which cost money. Rather it is to grow our foods and harvest, or to raise an animal and slaughter it. You are paying for a service provided so you can eat.

[jrossjr79]

Oh and I might add I respect both Chris and Mitchell's opionions as well.

[350gt]

Okay i read some of the article.....

guy is still innocent till proven guilty...... Lets just see what happens..