i know that, and i do appreciate your time and efforts. as i said i know that your position is thankless and opens you up to all kinds of extra drama. and i'm not trying to cast blame or point fingers either. i truthfully don't know what can be done to rectify this, except make sure this doesn't happen in the future. i'm not mad, but i cannot contain in words what it feels like having a thread devoted solely to arguing, supposedly created by me, at the top of the list when i login, knowing that i had no involvement in it. i will claim credit for this thread, i created it and typed every word with my own 10 digits. i respect the job you guys do, i really do, but calm down, not everything is something that needs policing. if my posts are deemed unfit, just delete them. don't move them around, don't make new threads, don't make it look like i was angry enough to start a new thread to drag things out. Just delete them. maybe leave a note that says "refrain from airing grievances in for sale threads" i was mountains more offended by the creation of a new thread then i would have been by a simple and reasonable exchange. in the end you guys control the spice, and as Frank Herbert said "he who controls the spice, controls the empire."