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  1. #11
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    The key if u are going to do miracle mud or a dsb in your sump ( which is what I do) is to also have mangroves growing. This will prevent old tank syndrome. U need the mangrove roots to cycle the anoxic areas of the dsb.

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    I've been thinking about switching from DSB to Mud. I've heard miricle mud is better than fiji mud. But i will have to research. Probably won't make any rash changes until i move in june. Thanks for the info. I will keep the Mangrove thing in mind when i do. Greatly appreciated.

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    From what I've read, the problem with a DSB is depth. Too deep and you create a true anoxic zone where the bacteria creates sulferic acid, too shallow and you won't have enough of an anoxic zone to finish the nitrogen cycle. The going estimate is 4-8" in order to be deep enough to complete the cycle but shallow enough to prevent a tank crash if its disturbed. In regards to the miracle mud, outside of what ever extra is added to the mud to make it a "miracle", it works the same as a DSB when it comes down to creating a habitat for the startification of bacteria.
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    I have always wanted a dsb but once I read about the turf scrubber I went that route instead since it is a little "safer". It all comes down to removing nitrate from your system. We all know the nitrogen cycle and how it works. The part we as reefers get stuck on is the nitrate. Our systems do not allow for nitrate to be broken down unless you add something of the sort such as a DSB. I remove nitrate through the rapid growth of microalgae in my turf scrubber and someone with alot of room can also do this with macroalgae such as caulerpa and chaeto in the fuge. The only downside is you need alot more room since its growth rate isnt as fast as a micro.

    I even remember the short lived- clam fuge tank. That would have been expensive! Lol

    Oh and one last thing- I've read that DSB are kept best with very high flow going over the top of them to reduce the possibility of detritus getting down in your sand bed.
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