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    Default Question on sump and filter

    Ok I am just getting my sump put in and running but I am still new to this. I built my 10 gal refugium/sump with protein skimmer built in. Going to start my pluming for it today and yes I am a bit scared. I built the overflow out of PVC pipe as well it is 1 ich pipe. Please tell me that is the correct size I needed. Ok now the other questions start. The display tank is 72 gal bow front with a emperior power 400 bio filter. And I also have two kydro circulation wave makers 1050 GPh. I have a Eco aqualizer ionizer. ( I also bought and installed yesterday a rodi system it working pretty good now.)
    The sump set up is as you are looking at it left to right. First chamber is the return section bubble traps/ refugium/bubble trap/ protine skimmer. So when I do the pluming the water from the tank( do I need to put a ball valve on this line?) will come in to where I have the protine skimmer (sitting in about 8 inch water; i had to use a stand to bring the skimmer up to where the intak/out level should be per the instruction) then the water flows under over baffles into refugium where I have about 3 1/2 inc live sand (will have copiepods,Algae,) in it when done. Then water flows over under baffles (8 inch). Then to the return area where I have a maxi-jet submersible utility pump 1800 ( pumps 475 GPh @ 4' 255). That will be sitting in about 3 inch water on stuck to the side of the tank right under water level leaving me about 6 inch of air space left for overflow from power outages. Then I the a 1 inch flex PVC pipe going back to the tank. Do I need a ball valve on this to control the water pressure back to the tank? What do I do with the overhang filter that's on the display tank now. I also got a bag of pure-chem elite where do I put that in the sump? PLease help me with all my questions I am new to this and a bit inteminated but will overcome with your help.

    I attached a pic of what I built so far and where I have things sitting.
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    your return pump is a lil small also skimmer is usually in first chamber as water levels will not fluctuate there, is the water levels move you will never dial in that skimmer. i would recomend a pump pushing around 500-700 gph with more head pressure than a maxi jet. also as we always say pics help
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    I attached a pic r you saying where I have the skimmer is wrong I will have the water from the tank coming into that chamber?

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    ok from the picture is the water coming in where the skimmer is located , also the chamber where the skimmer is located does the water go over or under the first baffle?
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    No your skimmer looks to be properly placed.
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    Default Overflow that I built as well

    This is the overflow I built to go on the display tank it's 1' PVC.
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    Yes it is, under first baffle the over top to refugium area

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    also i know you have sand in there now but a lot of people are moving away from that due to it trapping detritus, im not saying you have to remove it but algae and pods will stil grow without sand. later if you want to clean your sump a bare bottom will be a lot easier. just an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keelynnsreef View Post
    Yes it is, under first baffle the over top to refugium area
    ahhh i hate to bust your bubble but that skimmer chamber will fluctuate, water needs to go over, under over, rest is fine. if water table moves that skimmer will not work well, ive delt with that skimmer and its a lil sensitive to water level.

    how does that over flow work? does it it have a syphon break? sorry never seen that
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    Thanks I just might do that. Can you help with any other of my questions on here,

    1. Do I need a ball valve on the lines for the return. I put one on the overflow trap I (built pic above)
    2. Where or do I put the overhang bio filter 400 I have on the main tank now. Or do I even use it?
    3. Where do I put the pure-chem elect?
    4. Is the return pump placed where I stated right below the water line to help no overflow crash due to power outage?p
    5. In the pick of the skimmer do I have the bubbles correct or should it be higher or lower?

    sorry for so many questions I am just wanting to get this right.

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