leds will never be cheap i agree with with that....every year they come with different fixture and the price never goes down ...what i think the point that we r discussing is with the todays technology we hve so many option ..one is the led fixture which is expensive to setup initially and is as gud a any MH or T5s in terms of par and in growth of coral with literally no maintenance for several years and other is old school MH which is easily affordable initially over leds but not only require maintenance but also is a big cause of heat and water evaporation....