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    Quote Originally Posted by corruption View Post
    Assuming this is going in your ADA tank, I would really look at the Vortech MP10/MP20 -- would likely be all you really need to complete flow within the tank.. An MP10 would probably do the job, given the volume of the 75p, but an MP20 would probably be better suited. They're pricey, I know -- but they're pretty amazing little bits of hardware

    -Justin
    Why would you recommend these and not a cheaper version? Is the quality that much better or just for the looks?

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    Simply put: there is no cheaper version of the Vortech. I was a non-believer as well -- until I got my first pump. If you're not familiar with the Vortech product line, read up on them... they're not just pumps... they're wave generation devices, with infinite adjustability on speed, pulse length, randomness, etc. There is not a product on the market that compares to them. You can do just fine going with the cheaper solution, don't get me wrong -- but it will take more pumps and more invasion in the tank to get what you want. If you have to add, say, 3 pumps to your tank -- you're already halfway to the purchase cost of an MP10.

    Look up the product line, and some videos of what they can do -- you'll be impressed

    Edit: as a clarification to my initial statement -- the other propeller pumps on the market do a great job of providing non-laminar flow, but there is not a single one that can achieve what the Vortech line can, with as little power draw as it can. The aesthetics of the pumps is much nicer for a show-type display, but their abilities and range is FAR more than this alone.

    -Justin
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    I have an open top tank, won't the waves crash out of the tank!?

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    Only if you tune it that high -- you're missing a big point here -- infinite adjustability. You can (and people do) run MP10's in 10 gallon aquariums -- they can be adjusted that low.

    Also -- wave generation is not the only thing these do... you can run constant flow, you have 2 variable and random modes of operation, and 2 variable pulse modes for wave generation... you can do a LOT with one pump -- you're not stuck with one concept, by any means.

    -Justin

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    Quote Originally Posted by twychopen View Post
    Why would you recommend these and not a cheaper version? Is the quality that much better or just for the looks?
    If you want to spend the kind of money on a vortech for all the bells and whistles thats cool. But you could get away with just using a Korelia 2 or 3 for 45 bucks or so.

    Daniel

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    It was pointed out that there are cheaper options than the Vortech -- but as a final point to this, I'll just say it as simple as I can think of...

    Once you have true random current generation in your tank, you'll NEVER want to go back.



    -Justin

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    Quote Originally Posted by corruption View Post
    Simply put: there is no cheaper version of the Vortech. I was a non-believer as well -- until I got my first pump. If you're not familiar with the Vortech product line, read up on them... they're not just pumps... they're wave generation devices, with infinite adjustability on speed, pulse length, randomness, etc. There is not a product on the market that compares to them. You can do just fine going with the cheaper solution, don't get me wrong -- but it will take more pumps and more invasion in the tank to get what you want. If you have to add, say, 3 pumps to your tank -- you're already halfway to the purchase cost of an MP10.

    Look up the product line, and some videos of what they can do -- you'll be impressed

    Edit: as a clarification to my initial statement -- the other propeller pumps on the market do a great job of providing non-laminar flow, but there is not a single one that can achieve what the Vortech line can, with as little power draw as it can. The aesthetics of the pumps is much nicer for a show-type display, but their abilities and range is FAR more than this alone.

    -Justin
    Where is the cheapest or best place to get the Vortech pumps?

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    They're price locked anywhere they're advertised -- you won't find the items for less than $195 (MP10), $280 (MP20) or $419 (MP40w) advertised anywhere. There are occasional vendors who will sell them for cheaper than this -- perhaps someone else will chime in with information as it relates to this. I don't know any vendors who will do this, so have no recommendations in that realm

    They are worth every penny of the purchase price, even at full MSRP, IMO... Between the Tunze Wavebox, and Vortech pumps -- there's no need for me to ever get extremely invasive with pumps in a tank again

    -Justin

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