This has been a great thread. I've consolidated the list to make it easier to find what's missing or been thought of. The list is in the order they were first suggested. If I missed your suggestions please re-post, it was my mistake. Here's what we've got so far:
1. Lights
2. Premade SW
3. Diatom Filter
4. Buckets Lg. on wheels
5. Salt by the bag (ORF)
6. Tanks
7. Pumps (external and internal)
8. Heaters
9. Glass cutting bits
10. Suction Cups
11. Media Reactor
12. Hiatt Torpedo
13. External Skimmer
14. Shop Vac
15. Blower Fans Lg.
16. Sand
17. MAAST Cart 2nd
18. Salifert Tests
19. Par Meter
20. Chiller
21. Generator Sm.
22. Refractometer
23. Lumen Meter
24. Tubing noncollapsible
25. Microscope
I added a microscope to the list. I know I would love to bring stuff to the monthly meetings to look at on a cellular level. What else could we have at the monthly meetings?
The "moving kit" and "crash cart" are great ideas. Is there anything not mentioned above that they would need to consist of?
Justin
"Only bad things happen quickly in this hobby"
Being a noob myself I would imagine that I'm off target here referencing the crashcart, but this is what I think of.
An external micron filter HOB to quickly clean/polish water.
Ozone reactor to crank out some serious nutrients in a in-need tank.
A large phosban reactor that can handle a larger amount of water volumn.
This would be an effort to quickly reduce the problems in the water when a WC can only do so much (limited by how much water you carry with you).
Additionally, and this is just my new guy's opinion, I would steer away from premade salt water over RODI standby. Here's my reasoning. What do you salt at? 1.022? 1.025? It only takes a few moments to mix, indeed it seems bringing the water to the proper temperature is what takes more time.
In addition, how long can you keep water sitting in a container before those elements that are impossible to completely keep at bay are not allowed to find a home in these buckets of water?
Just an idea, feel free to shoot down or destroy at will, but how about this. Take all volunteers that are willing to toe the line and keep on hand at all times a five gallon bucket of RODI. A pledge really to always be ready to contribute a bucket or two, therefore to always have one on hand. This will allow us to constantly First in First out these buckets to keep them fresh.
If you had a group of 20 members willing to standby chances are you will at any time have access to at least five members who can respond. So perhaps with fifty members of the Bucket Brigade (suddenly I'm hungry) we would have twenty buckets in a time of crises. Five gallons each (ten for some) and you have 100 gallons of RODI at the ready.
A simple phone roster would be enacted rather than a call to arms over the Internet. I thnk in the civlian sector it's called a phone plant or phone tree.
Anyway, it's early and I'm just thinking out loud. Sorry about being so wordy.![]()
Reefing 210
Multi-Genera
You are on the money with the premade saltwater. It will begin it's cycle after some time. You reaally don't have to add anything to saltwater to make it cycle.
I do not let mixed saltwater set for more than a week after I mix it.
This is one of the reasons I stopped buying water in stores.
By the way I almost always have 15 gal of fresh RODI ready to go if needed.
Yep -- I've always got about 30 gals of RODI ready and waiting -- if anyone ever needs any, just let me know
As long as the saltwater is being stored in a light tight space with a bit of circulation, there shouldn't be much/any aging occurring in just straight mixed saltwater... the cycling/consumption of biominerals only really occurs once something is actively growing -- if the conditions prevent this, it can be stored indefinitely, the buffers of the salt notwithstanding
Natural sea water, of course, is a different situation -- no real buffering agents per se, so the chemistry can shift pretty quickly..
Edit: this should not be taken as an endorsement of keeping premixed saltwater -- I think that mixing on the spot likely makes more sense, especially if we're talking a bucket brigade type water sharing offer... The water may be coming from multiple sources, makes more sense to just bring forth pure water and mix to needs on the spot..
-Corruption
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Large insulated Ice Chests for moving live rock with corals attached to them.
Portable/ battery air pumps for fish w/ an extended visit to bucket-land.
Justin
"Only bad things happen quickly in this hobby"
generator for power outages. (hopefully its only one MAAST member out at a time)