yeah i read evil66's threads. he does know alot about the cree's.

but i wouldn't go by any 'hobbyists' info on these. these just came out in april and the owner of exotic aquatics in sacramento, ca. is still in china getting his order into the states. i spoke to the owners personally and have already pre-ordered my set. no hobbyists have had an opportunity to test these out. sanjay and grim haven't even posted any tests on them.

and i think the video shows that they have more than enough power to grow anything in your tank. the par at 24" was over 340. a 150w mh at that distance had only 150 par.

also i am not against evill66. i have actually pm'd him several times for help on a led diy for my biocube. he helped me out a bunch and the led's solved my growth and heat issues.

~alex