I agree with both Cbianco and MattK. I do feel like I owe everyone here for all of the help I've been getting, and for letting me use everything on this site. Nothing tangable is needed, its simple, if you are truely into this hobby, 25 is NOTHING! Thats what like 4 pounds of live rock of you think about it that way?! I will be paying the 25 100% as soon as I can get a job, it would be well worth it to me to be able to join the pay it forward frag program, attend meetings, events, and everything else. Thanks to everyone on this site for all the help so far!!