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Thread: Newbie Question on SUPMS and Refugium

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    The above posts have given you a very good crash course in reefing. For tons more information, I'd recommend checking out wetwebmedia.com. The sight is managed by Bob Fenner who is an authority on most if not all reef keeping topics. If your tank is going to be a 120+ it will most likely be 6' long, which will be plenty of room for a large custom built sump with a built in refugium, or a refugium and sump seperate. Basically what you want to do in either setup is make sure that the skimmer gets water directly from the tank (meaning not filtered at all before it reaches the skimmer). This will make a large improvement in skimming efficiency. Also, the refugium will be best served by receiving water directly from the tank. So you will need to split your overflow into both of these areas. For myself on the 135 I'm in the process of setting up, I'm doing a seperate refugium, which will be elevated slightly higher than the sump's return, and drill the side of the refugium and have it pour directly into the return. The sump's first chamber will be the skimmer, after which the water pours through the mechanical filter into the return. However you set it up its best not to have the mechanical filter after the refugium as you will filter out all your good stuff (copepods, amphipods, etc). For refugiums I like doing a deep sand bed with a plenum. A plenum is when you raise the rocks up about 1" over the bottom of the tank, leaving a stagnant dead space of water. This greatly assists in denitrification. And on top of the deep sand bed I add macroalgae. This type of setup has always worked very well for me. I know its theres a lot of info to digest, but for some good reading on all this just search wetwebmedia for the keywords of things you want to know more about. Chances are you'll find it there, and of course feel free to ask questions here on maast and you can also send questions to wetwebmedia, they almost always respond in a day. Just make sure you research your question first, they get understandably annoyed at having to answer the same questions over and over again. Good luck getting started and it sounds like you are asking the right questions to be well on your way to an outstanding reef.

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    The neat thing about the hobby is that there is so much to learn....and buy...and do... It seems it never ends which makes it fun.

    At this point it seems like TONS of work to maintain a Reef tank, but from what i have heard from experience keepers is that "if you have a good SUMP/refrugium system, proper lighting, ... that the work is more maintaining the tank wiht regular system checks, water changes, ect...

    Also, I like the fact that you HAVE to take your time...That way you do not feel so rushed to have the tank completely set up NOW...

    I think my best bet is to decided what I want my tank to look like years form now, and make a step by step plan to get it where I want it.

    My first step would be to get teh sump/tank/sand/LR.... done and have a FOWLR tank for a while (maybe some easy corals-I have read that som nano speicies are easy to keep and do not require high light outputs) until I get broke into the salt water world...

    Thoughts? Right track?

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    Sounds like you are understanding.It is often said "Only bad things happen fast" in this hobby.Take your time,read alot and ask questions here or other Saltwater forums before doing things.Before you know it you will be giving some advice ot just asking questions.Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishforlife View Post
    until I get broke into the salt water world...
    "Get broke" is about right!!! Welcome to salt water!

    I like your idea about visualizing the dream tank and then working backwards to develop the plan. We started by looking at people's tank of the month entries and choosing which seemed most appleaing, then researching what size tank / lights / filtration, etc. it takes to get that dream tank.

    A fish and coral wish list is also a good place to start, because fish will have minimum size tanks and will only work in combination with certain others, etc.
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    sent you a pm
    Ray Allen
    San Antonio, TX
    1604 Culebra/Shanefield
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    40g Breeder Reef Aquarium

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    Kristy PM Sent

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    You are defiantly on the right track. The only thing that happens fast in this hobby is disaster.

    Good luck.
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    In Universal City, try Poly's Pet Shop on Pat Booker rd. I haven't been there in a long time (and only once or twice) so I can't vouch for their quality/knowledge. But it's the only one I know of over there.

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