And Don...Pop's contract to 2012 coincides with Duncan's contract now. I believe they'll retire at the same time. And yes, we are spoiled. I love the Spurs...class act team and organization. And what I hate about Kobe...his arrogance...he can't be just humble. Would have loved to see him cry again...and yes, you do credit them for what they do off court. That's what young kids look to...he may be good on court (and he is) but not off. I hope Celtics take it. I see Horry, Finley, Thomas for sure exiting...not sure on Oberto and others as far as contracts. RC Buford said don't think they haven't been planning on rebuilding with youth. We'll be back...we're just spoiled...