thanks Ray, I appreciate that!

Waiting 6 months is nearly impossible, I admit, and waiting a year to put a invert or vertebrate in that first tank was tough tough tough... but oh so rewarding, i had so many types of micro-fauna it was just insane. losing that tank to an overheating pump was devestating, and i have never had the diversity like that again.

when I get a house i will probably get liverock in it, and hook up a HIATT to cure the rock fast and save as much life (and money (fewer water changes) as I can, then take the hiatt off and switch over to a skimmer/refugium methedology.

once i am through the cycle, I think I would start getting live sand from as many of the really healthy maast tanks as I can, and ordering garf grunge, grunge plus.. etc..

go w/ a massive refugium, way over what is normally reccomended (maybe even a 1 to 1 ratio of water) Refugium would have a massive DSB designed for growing seagrasses, mangroves, and algae of course...

but i am rambling now...