your right richard, sorry 'bout that. i got some SW frags from you around that time this year, so i thought that may have been the source. i'm not looking to place blame or anything. i had wondered how i had missed that thread. thanks for everyones help, Ace pretty much walked me through the procedures, and my wife ordered some interceptor(she's a compounder at a pharmacy), so, i'll do the treatment this WE. can't wait to be redbug free!