looks like im joining the skimmerless kick on my frag tank, my berlin skimmer got some carbon pellets in it and after taking it out and cleaning, it is leaking badly, so i may just run that system (on the hiatt method) without a skimmer. the skimmer has been running a "wet" as i could set it for a month now and not produced enough skimmate to cover the bottom of a 1 gallon juice bottle.