ok, but how about all the people who have fat happy mandarins that starve to death? I can't remember how many times I have seen this on reefcentral. I won't argue that brine has more nutrition than I thought, and of course, these are all probably gut loaded, but we still see people feeding brine to mandarins and the mandarins wasting away.

Fran, I am not picking on you , I hope your mandarin makes it as well.