Use of Cyanide (warning long post)

[falcondob]

I will try and find the link. Should have put that there anyway. The way I read it, the were talking total protection.

[Instar]

AMDA (American Marine Dealers Assoc) is the Politics site and basically dead on the vine for all intents and purposes from what I can tell.

Marine Aquarium Council (MAC) on the otherhand, is certifying collectors and then hooking them to certified wholesalers. A fish labeled MAC certified has made it from collector to you in all certified holding stations. It covers collection, maint, min H2O volume per, etc. Many fish are MAC cert but the wholesalers are not complying or certified (yet maybe) so the fish can not be sold as certified because its mixed with others that are not. If it is certified, the systems (and maint, feeding, etc.) are separate and apart from the holding systems of non-certifieds.

Alamo, BTW, is getting MAC certified fish in now. They look fantastic and I saw them eating! Even the Orange Spot Filefish were eating!

There are issues at all levels, but, could we expect anything else? Looks like they are working through it. And the process, however evolving, is starting to work.

For more recent news than this link below, go to the site and click the Jan 2 link.

http://www.aquariumcouncil.org/docs/...04%20final.PDF

http://www.aquariumcouncil.org/

[falcondob]

Marine Aquarium Council (MAC) on the otherhand, is certifying collectors and then hooking them to certified wholesalers. A fish labeled MAC certified has made it from collector to you in all certified holding stations. It covers collection, maint, min H2O volume per, etc. Many fish are MAC cert but the wholesalers are not complying or certified (yet maybe) so the fish can not be sold as certified because its mixed with others that are not. If it is certified, the systems (and maint, feeding, etc.) are separate and apart from the holding systems of non-certifieds.

Alamo, BTW, is getting MAC certified fish in now. They look fantastic and I saw them eating! Even the Orange Spot Filefish were eating!

There are issues at all levels, but, could we expect anything else? Looks like they are working through it. And the process, however evolving, is starting to work.

Great Stuff! Kudos to MAC. I plan on paying their website a visit and see what I can do to help.

Thanks again for the leg work.
John

[Thunderkat]

At the first store I bought fish from in SA it was pretty much hit or miss as to what fish lived. I lost quite a bit, but I did get my cleaner wrasse from there. Then I went to Wolf Reef (Alex's store) and out of all the things I have bought from him the only thing I have lost is an astea snail that fell on the sand on its back and I didn't see it behind the rock to turn it and unfortunately lost it. I don't know if the livestock he gets is cyanide caught but I would bet the ones he gets are net caught since I have not lost anything from him.