How much testdirector experience you have. Not sure if our testing area has openings or not but if you are interested I can find out also. BTW, I believe that they end up training the testers in SQL since they have to write test querries. Well eventually they will, right now we still write a majority of the SQLs for the testers. I'm totally against that since I wrote the code and now I'm writing the test, pretty sure it will pass. 8)