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  1. #21
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    Chris is absolutely right. Everyone has a good and bad story about everyone. I spent 20 years as a meat cutter for H.E.B. There was always someone unhappy with something we did or something Albertson or another store did. Each time they would switch stores until the other store made them mad. I did not mean for this to get into a battle. I think that this horse has been beat to death and should be left alone to die. I was not trying to start a war. MAAST memebrs have been very helpful to my adventure into salt. Also, AA has been very helpful. Heck I spent most of my income tax in there (with Jason's help) getting setup for this hobby. My concern was the bad information being given out to so many people in the store when I have found MAAST to be most helpful. As always this was my opinion and I expressed it. If anyone's feeling were hurt I am truly sorry.

  2. #22
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    I'd like to address one other point in this matter as well. Can any single person on MAAST truly say they buy 100% of their supplies or livestock online. To do so would be rediculous. The reality is that online purchases are a reality in our hobby in today's marketplace. Some LFS have come to terms with the presence of the internet in our hobby and learned to change their business plan to address this fact, other's, and I am NOT pointing a finger at Alamo, have put their head in the sand and wished it would go away. I think most serious aquarists have done some purchasing online at some point. The reasons they do so may be for product or livestock selection as well as price on major items. The fact that MAAST members do group orders in a public forum to take advantage of volume pricing or free shipping just makes us more visible and leads to the type of attitude that was voiced by this individual. The fact that the ownership at Alamo has chosen to become a sponsor of MAAST shows that they recognize that MAAST has become a factor in the marketplace as well and they choose to work with us cooperatively to achieve both of our goals.

    I would have encourged this particular individual to recognize the fact that MAAST is not a buyers club. We are a group of indivduals. Some of our members may do things that we as an organization do not sanction but we are not the aquarium police either. I would have also explained that we do encourage our members to support our sponsors, both online and at LFS for the simple reason that our sponsors have chosen to support us in the pursuit of MAAST's goals. However, the goals and purpose of MAAST are only oriented towards education and support of aquarists. I think I can make a pretty good argument that we are pretty helpful to all LFS, even non-sponsors, because we have helped encourage and keep people in the hobby when they may have thrown their hands up in frustration in the past. How many people have you known that said they had a SW aquarium in the past but found it to difficult? These individuals probably did so because they just didn't have the type of support that an organization like MAAST can provide. Such ex-aquarists aren't going to spend any money at an LFS and nor is he/she going to encourage their friends and acquaintances to get into the hobby.

    Yes, the LFS do provide a valuable service to many aquarists in providing valuable information. Unfortunately, they do not have the luxury of taking the time to ask all the quastions or get the follow-up that we often do online. Additionally, an LFS owner may not have the direct experience that one of our members may have concerning a specific issue. They can't be an expert on everything. Also, our hobby is going through many changes as the result of scientific research and technological innovation. Because some of our members are so devoted to the hobby we may be aware of information that is more up to date than is an LFS employee. I have often heard this at an LFS where an employee is telling someone that is perfectly good advice, or rather would have been 5-10 years ago. I'm sure some of you have had similar experiences. Again, its not the LFS employee's fault that he can't be an expert on every facet of the hobby. That's where an organization such as MAAST, or dare I say RC, has a role.

    OK, I am off my soapbox.
    Gary

    125 SPS, 75 gal. LPS/softie reef, 9 gal. Nano

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    Dizamn, nice post and well said.

  4. #24
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    You go Gary! Nice post.

    To be honest my experience with the LFS in San Antonio have all been very positive.
    Alamo is where I got started and Jason held my hand through the first tense weeks. Jason is a really nice guy and has always been willing to help.

    Louis and Alex and Felipe have all been very helpful and courteous. I have never heard anything bad about MAAST (unless you include MAAST members, go figure that one :huh).

    I think MAAST is a really great group of people. I think the membership should give itself a pat on the back. You people really do rock. Thanks to everyone for their help!
    John
    220 gal reef
    60 gal (inactive)

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by falcondob
    I think MAAST is a really great group of people. I think the membership should give itself a pat on the back. You people really do rock. Thanks to everyone for their help!
    You're just saying that because it took half of MAAST to move that behemoth of a tank into your living room.
    Gary

    125 SPS, 75 gal. LPS/softie reef, 9 gal. Nano

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    In no way shape or form could "Chris" be called skinny :roll
    I have always gotten VERY good service and help from Alamo , CHRIS GABE AND JASON are always helpfull.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryP
    Quote Originally Posted by falcondob
    I think MAAST is a really great group of people. I think the membership should give itself a pat on the back. You people really do rock. Thanks to everyone for their help!
    You're just saying that because it took half of MAAST to move that behemoth of a tank into your living room.
    That had nothing to do with it. ^_^ No, really it didn't! :huh Ok, well maybe a little.... ;) OK! OK! I had some to do with! Jeez, Gary you just don't let up!!! Hey, where else could you get 10 or more people to lift a 900 pound empty box? Yep, great people!
    John
    220 gal reef
    60 gal (inactive)

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