hey randy, well i see you like the way dan hand tamed that fish, he was holding it for me and i went over one day and told me check this out, he stuck some flake in the water while holding it and boom the fish ate out of his hand, i was impressed, i think im gonna make dan hold my pair for a couple weeks... happy to hear you liked the clown dude, i need to swing by and check out your setup oneday!!!