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Thread: Non-Drilled Sump/Fuge?

  1. #11
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    Any other suggestions?
    46G bowfront, Eheim 2215, Prizm Pro Delux, 400W XM 20K PFO Pendant

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    my suggestion is..... go to DAN'S HOUSE!!

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    I have a preloved hang on fuge sitting around some where, if you want it, its yours, cheap. I can give you measurements, etc. if you are interested.

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    Dan's overflows are fully made, you just hang it on your tank and off you go. They're much better than the CPR type overflows.

    As far as the 10 gallon sump/fuge combination, it's too small to be effective at both. You need a sump area that's large enough to handle the drain from your tank when the power is off, and you want as much refugium space as is possible. You best bet is to have Dan design something that will fit in your stand and do the job. There's another issue; your return pump will either be a submersible sitting in your sump, or an external which attaches to your sump with a bulkhead fitting. The external pumps are MUCH higher quality, and I would strongly suggest you use one. Your skimmer can hang on the sump provided there's anough vertical space to allow for it.

    Sounds like you should go visit someone who has a set up like this so you can see how it works. No external overflow is as reliable as an internal overflow, but Dan's are about as close as you can get.

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    When I had my 46 bow, I used a CPR Hang on fuge and a aquac remora with surface skimmer box. It may be a little more expensive of an option, but it worked really well for me.

    You have already been to my house once, if you want to come back and look closer at my 110 sump / fuge setup, just let me know.
    Bryan Tacker - North Austin ( 620 and Parmer )
    110g RR > 2x250w SE XM 10k with 2x140w Super Atinic > Matt Sump / Fuge > Red Berlin Skimmer.

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    Ive had a hang-on over flow for 10 years on my 100. It has NEVER stoped or caused problems. however i,d use the largest overflow tubes you can find. I made one myself out of 1/1/2 " pvc pipe. small u-tubes tend to collect air at the top and can stop if you dont check them regularly.

    one more suggestion GO SEE DAN!
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    Hey everyone. I recently got a 125 gal (Pete is building the hood for me), and I really, REALLY want to turn it into a salt water tank and eventually reef tank. When I pick up the hood from Pete he said he would show me how the filtration system works in his aquarium. I have a basic idea of how is works, but no idea how to get started. I have had fresh fish for about three years and I am ready to move up in the world of fishery, but the only thing I have experience in is hanging Emperors on the back and sticking canister filters underneith the tanks. Maybe Dan can have a little work shop at his house for us newbies. Its can be a two fold event, We can learn a little something and Dan can get some buisness ($$).

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    What about these marineland Tidepool filter/sumps? Does anyone have any experience with them? Looks like they have a hang on overflow you can use with them as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elm0
    What about these marineland Tidepool filter/sumps? Does anyone have any experience with them? Looks like they have a hang on overflow you can use with them as well.
    I hade a Tidepool years ago on a freshwater system. It was OK for a FW system, but saltcreep would be horrible on a SW :o Also, quality isn't that great - mine lasted about 2 years before the trays were cracking.

    I have used various hangon overflows for many years, and as Jim stated they work fine. But YOU DO need to check them daily for proper flow and siphon. If the siphon stops or water flow is obstructed due to algae growth, etc. they can flood your house. But so can a drilled setup.

    Dan can size the overflow to your tank, and make you a great sump/fuge. Or use an old 20-50g tank for your sump.

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