Thanks, yea those are my favorites too. Some early morning scouting and I found the Abrolhensis at reefermadness - it has a really cool shape to it. The efflo was a late night scouting from chad at reefscience - another great place to deal with. The color has really changed on the efflo under the 20k's. It was a little brown when I got it but now the green is really showing.