I would imagine that with a consistant water change of about five gallons, maybe 3, per week the numbers would fall in order by themselves. As far as the Ph issue, I would not pay to much attention to it, only to know where it usually is when problems pop up. I would aerate the water as Richard suggested to elimate the Co2 question. I also have a tank at 8.0 and you would never know it to look at it. A stable Ph is more important than a Ph that is up one day (with a dose of magic stuff) and down in two and up one day (another dose of magic stuff) and down in two. If your body Ph did that.............. well, Somebody call the Doctor.

Pull back on the stuff and stick to some small water changes and watch the magic.

If your not going to take water changes then you need to carefully watch what you are putting in your water. With most products on the market Chloride is your worst enemy. Check the lable. There are some products on the market that love to leave other elements in your water that are not good for your animals or algaes.

Matt always has some great ideas on stuff from around the house that work very well and there are no long term problems with using them.
There Matt a personal plug. OK Doc? I've always loved his approach.

Ken
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