thanks Tim, Well, I guess I may hold off on the mandarin for now. They are awesome looking fish, and I am sure everyone in the hobby is infatuated with them at some point... I think, perhaps for now, I will put it off. When we get a house in a couple of years I am planning on putting in at least a 150, maybe a 200... that will be the time to get him though...

it is sad really, my two favorite fish in the world are mutually exculisve, radiata lion, and mandarin... no biggie... the clowns are awesome too!