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    Add some Koralias/Seios/Tunze Nano Streams/a Vortech pump in there -- you need more flow than your return and skimmer. At 3 months -- you're definitely still going through tank cycling... while the nitrogen cycle may have run its initial course, the tank is still maturing chemically and biologically -- there will be a lot of wax and wane for the next 6 months. Just keep up on the maintenance, and add some flow in there. I recommend a Vortech -- you've already got a sweet ADA tank, keep it as minimal as possible

    Edit: Unrelated -- but what did the Amano Designs tank run you? I didn't know they were readily available stateside -- they sure are gorgeous.

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    ok easy fix add some more or divide up you return with locline, and above all sit back and "wait", your tank is cycling still so it will get uglier before it gets better. do reg water changes as it matures and then you can cut back a lil. but be patient all or tanks went thru this, so your ok
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    I'd still add more flow than you've got -- if you're only dealing with a return pump, a skimmer, and a reactor, you've not got nearly enough movement in your tank.. As long as the flow isn't straight-line laminar, you pretty much can't have too much movement in your tank -- within reason, of course. Koralias, Seios, Tunze Streams, and Vortechs will all give a nice wide, non-laminar flow pattern, that will cause a lot of random currents throughout the tank -- and will help to break up the flow from your other returning items as well.

    The idea most people usually shoot for is as much turnover as the entire tank can stand, without blowing the substrate into the water column. The balance is usually pretty easy to find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corruption View Post

    Edit: Unrelated -- but what did the Amano Designs tank run you? I didn't know they were readily available stateside -- they sure are gorgeous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corruption View Post
    I'd still add more flow than you've got -- if you're only dealing with a return pump, a skimmer, and a reactor, you've not got nearly enough movement in your tank.. As long as the flow isn't straight-line laminar, you pretty much can't have too much movement in your tank -- within reason, of course. Koralias, Seios, Tunze Streams, and Vortechs will all give a nice wide, non-laminar flow pattern, that will cause a lot of random currents throughout the tank -- and will help to break up the flow from your other returning items as well.

    The idea most people usually shoot for is as much turnover as the entire tank can stand, without blowing the substrate into the water column. The balance is usually pretty easy to find.

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    Yeah I have 2 1/2" locline return "jets" coming in the pump. My pump is running around 350 gph so that is divided by 2 in 2 1/2" lines. It is pretty linear :/ I have them shooting off the glass but there isn't nearly enough current.

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    What you have and what I saw was cyano starting on the substrate. More flow should help it alot. If you need something to stir the sand fighting conches are cute and do a great job.

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    That will be a constant source of cyano problems, even after the natural cycles take place within the tank. Depending how expensive and invasive in the tank you want to get, there's a huge range of options for movement of water. Assuming this is going in your ADA tank, I would really look at the Vortech MP10/MP20 -- would likely be all you really need to complete flow within the tank.. An MP10 would probably do the job, given the volume of the 75p, but an MP20 would probably be better suited. They're pricey, I know -- but they're pretty amazing little bits of hardware

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    is there something that eats that off the ground?

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    Not really -- a goby, a conch (make sure its reef safe!) and nassarius/cerith snails will help turn the sand bed, but they won't make the problem go away. The issue is that your tank is aging still, and will be for some time -- and on top of that, your flow is inadequate for your needs. Increase the flow before worrying about something that will eat it -- you need to do this anyway.

    Edit: Cyano is not palatable to pretty much anything -- your chances of finding something that willfully consumes it are next to nil. Control is your only option -- and control is the key. You can never completely beat Cyanobacteria -- its not an algae, its a bacteria that is incredibly invasive and found in all walks of life -- not just aquariums.

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    Last edited by corruption; Tue, 12th Jan 2010 at 09:42 PM.

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    Also is you do well on keeping nitrates and low as possible the cyano will start to slow down because cyano feeds on nitrates so by keeping the nitrates down it will help
    as for something to turn the sand i would recommend a sand sifting starfish
    29 gal temp lunar wrasse/ soon to be lps/sps nano
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