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Thread: Who has a Mandrin Dragonette that eats with the other fish?

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    Thanks for the replies! I just don't want this one to starve either. I will keep a eye on things and see if it looks like it is getting fatter or skinnier and decide what action to take. I added a bottle of tiggerpods the other night for good measure after lights out with the filters off for a while. All I can do is pray it will start picking up the frozen stuff and there is plenty of pods for it to eat. I have been doing research on the internet and will just have to monitor the situation. I just got it Saturday and so far it appears to be doing well. BTW his belly is level with his body not plump or sunken in either and is very active.
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    Well bad news, Found it dead today. It was swimming around like everything was fine last night before the lights went out. I knew better when I bought it that it probably was not a good idea. If I buy another one it will be a confirmed frozen/prepared food eater. Somehow I feel responsible, but truthfully it had the best chance of making it since there was plenty of pods for it to eat in the aquarium. Some things are beyond your control. The joys of trying to make your own little piece of ocean.
    72 Gallon Bowfront Oceanic Reef Tank,Cascade 1000 Canister Filter,Koralia1&3,Multiple Xenia,1-Finger Leather Coral,Various Mushrooms,2-Hammerhead Coral, Various Zoas and Palys,1-Yellow Tang,2-Ocellaris Clowns,2-Green Chromis, 1-Royal Gramma,1 Flamefish Angel,1-Yellow Watchman Goby,1-Coralbanded Shrimp,1-Sandsifting Starfish,1-Brittle Star,5-6 Hermitcrabs

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    sorry bout your loss...i had one for about 8 months...at first it was very hard to get it to eat frozen but nevertheless it got used to it....i think it all depends on the fish's personality as well...u cant jus condition them to ur liking....but i would definitely give it a shot...im debating about gettin another one as well...jus waiting for my 37 to thrive with pod to keep enough pod population for him...

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    With it only lasting five days, I don't think it was to be and it was nothing you did. I have two in a 200 and both came from smaller tanks where they did very well. As a matter of fact I think they did better in the smaller tanks, than the 200. A friend had one in a 29 and it doubled in size before moving it to his 125. My two eat FW Mysis, Mysis, Blood Worms, and Pods.

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    Matt Wittenrich (the guy whoe successfully bred both the spotted and the green mandarins) wrote that spotted mandarins are easier to train to accept frozen food than the greens.
    That's why I chose to get the spotted ones.
    I used Matt Pederson (Marine Fish and Ornamental Breeders) method of mandarin training and within 2 weeks I had my two spotteds eating frozen food and gaining weight on it.
    You never know what is going to happen to your pod population. I think it's always a good idea to train your fish to accept frozen in addition to the natural pod population to ensure continued success/supply.
    Most people wouldn't just get a pet cat and plan to let it sustain itself on the mice it finds in the backyard.
    Why take the chance with such a beautiful fish?
    It would be awful to watch it starve.
    I started them in a 10 gallon tank with live mysids, etc. and then weaned them over onto frozen food. Selco enriched small bloodworms are a favorite - definitely worth trying!
    I now have one of them in my 130g tank with PJ cardinals and clownfish.
    I turn my Rio Seio pumps off (using the feed timer) because the mandarins don't like to catch their food in heavy flow and use a kent sea squirt (had to make the hole a little bigger) to deliver the food.
    That works really well. He's eating pods but he's still after the frozen food too.
    Unfortunately the person that sold the two of them to me didn't know how to sex them and instead of having a female and a male I now have two males. Obviously the two of them don't get along so one of them is in a breeder basket until I find a new home for it.
    If anybody knows of somebody in San Antonio that has a female spotted for sale or trade (even if she doesn't eat frozen) or is looking for a frozen food eating male let me know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiers007 View Post
    How long has it been in your tank? Sometimes they will take several days to get comfortable and start eating again. I have heard of people acclimating them to frozen foods, but I cant remember exactly how they did it. My friends just started eating frozen out of the blue one day! Kinda strange but it can happen.


    Yea it did, and it was AWESOME.



    .... "easiest" way and the best way is to use a breeder net in the main system. You first start with live brine .... then live and a little frozen brine and mysis then little less live and so on .... and so on....


    If it's not moveing they usually won't eat it so doing the method "trains" them on frozen.





    ..... but yea, I got lucky.

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    Sorry, but I have another post called bloodworms where I mentioned some of the same results. Quickly I noticed my red, or mabe he's a blue, manderian only eating microscopic pods after the big visible ones started running scarse, and my copperband would not eat the regular food either, but I noticed he'd tare up a speghetti worm out of the sand and munch it down. I then went and bought a pack of bloodworms. The copperband loved them and would eat them until they were gone. My manderian still would not eat. I usually turn the feed cycle on when I feed so that the pumps dont thrash the frozen food around, but I started leaving them on only when I threw the blood worms in, now the manderian chases them and eats them like crazy. Thanks for all the info everyone and good luck with keeping fish fed and happy!

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    I think another nice benefit to feeding your fish is that they respond to it much better as far as coming out in the open goes.
    I've heard people complain about rarely seeing their mandarins in a big tank.
    With mine I usually can find him (although a 2 inch fish in a 125 tank with 140 pound of liverock is awfully small) and when I turn off the pumps for feeding time he is right there because he knows what's going to happen.

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    I used to keep a pair in my 450 g system. They are out all the time and spawned every 6-10 days or so. They are the most striking and unususal looking of my fishes
    Minh

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