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    The Toxicity of Some Freshly Mixed Artificial Sea Water: A Bad Beginning For A Reef Aquarium by Ron Shimek

    http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php

    Do you think this article is as true today as it was in 2003?

    It makes me rethink my salt choice!

    Warning: heavy reading.

    Christopher

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    Ah, a classic.

    Some would say this has been debunked somewhat and the original article is suspect.

    I would take much of it with a grain of salt...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mharmon View Post
    Ah, a classic.

    Some would say this has been debunked somewhat and the original article is suspect.
    Could you guide me to the article debunking it? I would be interested in reading more.

    Quote Originally Posted by mharmon View Post
    I would take much of it with a grain of salt...
    Toxic salt...

    Christopher

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    Well, I looked for an axe-grinding smiley, that I can't find. Can someone please make one?

    I'm a biologist by education. I took a quick look at this. Seriously. How about some good science? i get so tired of "science" with a pre-conceived conclusion. All we need now is a "sunscreen is killing the reefs!" discussion.
    Bill

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    Quote Originally Posted by mharmon View Post
    Here you go... Enjoy!
    Thank you

    Quote Originally Posted by mharmon View Post
    LOL @ Shimek. After a quick read, I see that he gets bashed to bits. I guess his study wasn't as scientific as it should have been.

    I've read these salt studies. Good stuff.

    On a side note...
    I was wondering how could Shimek's findings basically bash IO salt and praise another. The urchin study felt like an advertisement almost.

    Thanks for the laughs before bed!

    Christopher

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstreep View Post
    Well, I looked for an axe-grinding smiley, that I can't find. Can someone please make one?

    I'm a biologist by education. I took a quick look at this. Seriously. How about some good science? i get so tired of "science" with a pre-conceived conclusion. All we need now is a "sunscreen is killing the reefs!" discussion.
    Sunscreen is killing the reef??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstreep View Post
    Well, I looked for an axe-grinding smiley, that I can't find. Can someone please make one?

    I'm a biologist by education. I took a quick look at this. Seriously. How about some good science? i get so tired of "science" with a pre-conceived conclusion. All we need now is a "sunscreen is killing the reefs!" discussion.
    Yeah. I'd like to see a copy of the actual lab book with real data rather than then the "This is it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbianco View Post
    It makes me rethink my salt choice!
    Christopher
    Are you thinking about raising urchins? I have read a few comparisons on synthetic vs. natural SW in terms of chemical composition, but where is the comparison in terms of coral growth/coloring matched to the individual composition of each salt choice. Corals and inverts grow much larger in their natural habitat, I haven't seen where NSW in your aquarium produces the same results.
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    I wasn't thinking about raising urchins. It was just a, generally speaking, type of comment. I was wondering why in Shimek's results IO was not able to support the urchin embryos as well as the other salts. According to WWW and others, there is information missing from the urchin study making it questionable.

    Christopher

    Quote Originally Posted by Justahobby View Post
    Are you thinking about raising urchins? I have read a few comparisons on synthetic vs. natural SW in terms of chemical composition, but where is the comparison in terms of coral growth/coloring matched to the individual composition of each salt choice. Corals and inverts grow much larger in their natural habitat, I haven't seen where NSW in your aquarium produces the same results.

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