Fish Dying! Need help ASAP

[duc]

Why don't you slide the sump to one side or the other, then you could put a 10-20 gal tank in the stand for QT. That way you DO have the space, and the QT is ready when you need it.

Sorry for your loss.

I can't honestly think as to why I did not put my sump on one side or the other but now you mention that is a good idea. I know there had to be a reason (probably temporary insanity) but I cant think of why so I will buy some more hose this week/weekend and knock that out.
Thanks for the smack back to reality.

Wait I remember why I didn't side it, once the sides are on it would be to hard to work on. We (wife and I) built this stand lower so she did not have to use a ladder or chair to get to the top of the tank (she's short) and by doing that we left very little room for sump maintenance. So it would be very difficult to work on the sump if it was sided instead of centered.

[SarahPSl]

Don't kick yourself too hard. I did the same thing with my old sand and lost one of my anemone's and came as close as you can get to killing the other (mouth wide open and no tentacles) I did water changes everyday for a week and added some Turbo start for added bacteria. My anemone amazingly survived and is doing well now.

[duc]

Don't kick yourself too hard. I did the same thing with my old sand and lost one of my anemone's and came as close as you can get to killing the other (mouth wide open and no tentacles) I did water changes everyday for a week and added some Turbo start for added bacteria. My anemone amazingly survived and is doing well now.

Thing is I can't figure why some died and some seem fine, bottom fish look/act healthy as ever same with all my inverts but two (seemingly) strong fish crash and burn. Oh well.....

[Andrew]

It's still possible the other animals are stressed even though they didn't die.

Marineland sells an excellant marine bacteria in a packet called-bio spira. If I was moving a sand bed, I'd definitely use it, along with testing water, having new water available for water changes etc. I am sorry to hear of your losses.

HTH

Andrew

[Instar]

Duc, Yes you can grow macro anywhere you can get to for maintenance and where you can put a strong shop type or pc light. Some people without algae consuming inverts and fish grow macro algae in their tanks. Its a plant, complex algae really. Not just slime, but some looks like eel grass, others like little runners of 2 to 6 inch feathers, some like a corkscrew sponge. They can be red or green "plants". They can also overgrow your tank rocks, so if you grow some in the tank you have to be careful to keep it pruned. It is very good at exporting nutrients put out by the reef life when you prune it like that and it contributes to the heath of the fish. Tangs eat it, so you can feed some to the algae eating type fish if you grow it in the sump. Algae eating fish like tangs will wipe it out in your main tank. If done in the sump, you have to keep it out of the pump intake area somehow. This is why many people have refugiums attached; for pods and for these macros to grow in.

[duc]

It's still possible the other animals are stressed even though they didn't die.

Marineland sells an excellant marine bacteria in a packet called-bio spira. If I was moving a sand bed, I'd definitely use it, along with testing water, having new water available for water changes etc. I am sorry to hear of your losses.

HTH

Andrew

So tonight at 10pm makes 4 days since the move and other than the previously mentioned fish everyone looks and acts healthy. Eating like pigs and going about there daily lives like nothing happened. Do you think I need to add something or just let things progress normally. Water tests daily and everything is good.

[duc]

Duc, Yes you can grow macro anywhere you can get to for maintenance and where you can put a strong shop type or pc light. Some people without algae consuming inverts and fish grow macro algae in their tanks. Its a plant, complex algae really. Not just slime, but some looks like eel grass, others like little runners of 2 to 6 inch feathers, some like a corkscrew sponge. They can be red or green "plants". They can also overgrow your tank rocks, so if you grow some in the tank you have to be careful to keep it pruned. It is very good at exporting nutrients put out by the reef life when you prune it like that and it contributes to the heath of the fish. Tangs eat it, so you can feed some to the algae eating type fish if you grow it in the sump. Algae eating fish like tangs will wipe it out in your main tank. If done in the sump, you have to keep it out of the pump intake area somehow. This is why many people have refugiums attached; for pods and for these macros to grow in.

Man I love this forum. So I see people with hang on fuges, got an opinion of those? My sump is pretty crowded so a small tank mixed in next to it or a hong on would be cool. I have seen some suction cup algae (that is what the tips looked like) that you grow in your tank that I was told needed to be groomed and if not careful could grow to be harmful and cover everything. For now or permanently does in growth macro work as well as anything else? Do you recommend a in tank macro?
Clif