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Texreefer
Sat, 25th Jun 2011, 03:06 PM
Just picked up this New test kit and very impressed with the apparent quality. everything is contained In a black plastic case and Glass vial for testing.. not plastic ones. also has a "Titrator" a piece of equipment that holds the Syringe above the attached Testing vile so the drops can be easily added and mixed. Not Cheap at about $35 but appears to be worth the money.. I will give results soon on how easy it is to work and read the results

Texreefer
Sat, 25th Jun 2011, 03:36 PM
Ok, a little confusing the first time.. you actually have to take the starting plunger point and subrtact from the ending plunger point to get the amount of titrant used. my reading was 1280 so will will increase it to about 1400 which is where I want it. overall, after the initial learning curve, I would say very nice kit and easy to use

stoneroller
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 07:03 AM
Salifert works the same way but its syringe has the "math" built in, so to speak. How many reagents does it use?

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 07:32 AM
Ok, a little confusing the first time.. you actually have to take the starting plunger point and subrtact from the ending plunger point to get the amount of titrant used. my reading was 1280 so will will increase it to about 1400 which is where I want it. overall, after the initial learning curve, I would say very nice kit and easy to use

Why don't they just adjust the results chart for that? (assuming they always issue the same syringe)

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 10:39 AM
Why don't they just adjust the results chart for that? (assuming they always issue the same syringe)
Dont know.. seems like they would want to remove as much human error as possible... the only thing I don't like about this kit, otherwise it is great

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 10:41 AM
Salifert works the same way but its syringe has the "math" built in, so to speak. How many reagents does it use?
I have used Salifert for Years... 2 reagents.. its almost identical to the salifert in process... just a little fancier

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 10:43 AM
lol so I can keep my Salifert kits and just pick up a fancier box for them at the container store ;) ?

Big_Pun
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:07 AM
IMO the red sea test kits are so much easier than sailfret and very well packaged. i own the colors kit and Cal and mag tests.

MofaqM-I6uM

tebstan
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:22 AM
It's the same as the old Red Sea kit, but with way fancier packaging and supplies! The cost is about the same as the old kit though; nice to see the price didn't jump up to the Salifert range just because of the packaging.

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:26 AM
so the process is really exactly the same (other than you have to swirl for 15 seconds between each drop with the Red Sea kit and with the Salifert you can add the drops and then swirl once for all)
The packaging with the fancy syringe holder looks nice though! :) I bet it would make it a lot easier for people with arthritis, etc.

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:31 AM
It's the same as the old Red Sea kit, but with way fancier packaging and supplies! The cost is about the same as the old kit though; nice to see the price didn't jump up to the Salifert range just because of the packaging.
Jump up? A quick search seems to indicate the Salifert Mag kit sells for between $25 and $30 on average. Wouldn't that be lower than the Red Sea kit?

I do like the fancy spill proof titrator thingy and could totally see myself purchasing this kit so I am not dissing it. :)
But it seems like it's the same thing as the Salifert IMO. Just with nicer accessories, a few more steps/time and a little more expensive (due to the extra titrator thingy I am sure)

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:39 AM
The "Titrator Thingy" is worth buying the kit one time.. becaue it could be used with any other kit as well that uses that type of syringe(ie, salifert) i like the fact you can basically do it with one hand and don't have to worry about spilling it

tebstan
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:39 AM
A quick search seems to indicate the Salifert Mag kit sells for between $25 and $30 on average

Where? I paid 44.99 at a local sponsor....

I've tried getting it cheaper online but it seemed to always be out of stock, plus added shipping costs.

FireWater
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:42 AM
Where? I paid 44.99 at a local sponsor....

I've tried getting it cheaper online but it seemed to always be out of stock, plus added shipping costs.

I agree. Where Karin? I paid more for my Salifert test kits than the whole tank is worth.

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:42 AM
Where? I paid 44.99 at a local sponsor....
Ouch!

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:50 AM
several sites list the salifert kit very cheaply
( i removed Link) aquacave ( I have bought from them many times) sells salifert for $25

Marine depot sells red sea for aroung $29

tebstan
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:53 AM
Marine depot sells red sea for aroung $29

Did you mean salifert?

I didn't think about online prices. It's not always a fair comparison to local stores, and I prefer to shop locally for small items. $5 shipping doesn't sound bad... but $5 shipping on a $25 item? The percentage increase irks me.

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:54 AM
Uhm. I buy the test kits when I buy bulk stuff like DI resin and GFO, etc. Since I am a preferred customer on that site the savings really add up. Plus I love their glue. lol
Great idea Mike about buying the Red Sea kit once to get the hardware and then just using it with my Salifert stuff!

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 11:58 AM
Did you mean salifert?
No, Meant Red Sea.. just showing the pricing was comparable from different sites for both kits... I love and agree with supporting local stores.. but not when there is that big of a price difference. especially when i'm still spending $5 in gas to drive over there and back.. same as shipping for me

tebstan
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 12:02 PM
When we're talking about $5 or $10 it just matters what else you're doing with your time and money. Ordering other stuff online anyway? Shipping is already a given. Spending your day off checking out LFS? Gas money is already a given. :)

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 12:05 PM
When we're talking about $5 or $10 it just matters what else you're doing with your time and money. Ordering other stuff online anyway? Shipping is already a given. Spending your day off checking out LFS? Gas money is already a given. :)

Exactly. :)

Texreefer
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 12:12 PM
When we're talking about $5 or $10 it just matters what else you're doing with your time and money. Ordering other stuff online anyway? Shipping is already a given. Spending your day off checking out LFS? Gas money is already a given. :)

I completely agree.. thats the rule I use...but i'm still too cheap to buy a $45 test kit:wink_smile:

ramsey
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 12:14 PM
I really like the Red Sea tests though I have concerns about the accuracy of the mag test. It told me it was around 1600PPM which is HIGHLY unlikely. My Seachem mag test show it around 1300PPM which is more like it. I've only used ot once though so I may have done something wrong. I'll try again because I love the calc test and the titrator alone is worth the price of the kit.

Europhyllia
Mon, 27th Jun 2011, 12:30 PM
oh I just saw that there are refills for the test kits for around $15 each. Now that makes it a lot more appealing.
You buy the $30/$44 kit first and then after that just get the refills. Nice!

Europhyllia
Sun, 24th Jul 2011, 09:11 PM
I am getting some! I had enough points on my credit card to get some free stuff from Amazon so I chose the basic reef kit (Ca, Mg, Alk) and the algae kit (Nitrate and Phosphate). Can't wait to try them out!

Europhyllia
Fri, 29th Jul 2011, 07:24 PM
I got it! It's nice. I got the foundation kit meaning it's all three in one box. That's a bit of a problem because I can't get it to all fit back into the one box lol
Other than that I agree: it's very nice.

One thing that freaked me out: I was so dazzled by the beautiful test kits that I also bought a bottled supplement: Nitrate and Phosphate reducer.
I enthusiastically dosed it to my main tank and didn't notice until AFTER I poured it in that it smelled like nailpolish remover. I usually hesitate to pour acetone into my tank so this caused me some panic...