View Full Version : www.berghia.net ???aiptasia eating nudis
rz1a
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 05:33 PM
went to http://www.berghia.net/ (http://www.berghia.net/marketprice.html) to look at those nudis that eat aiptasia and i saw they had the "ASK MAAST" banner on the top right, didnt know they were out of texas and affiliated with MAAST
anyhow, anyone try the nudis from them? did it take care of their aiptasia problems?
what about LPS, did they go after LPS like the peppermint shrimp do?
dustint21
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 06:45 PM
IMO I wouldnt ever do it! They look to much like zoa eating nudi!! I might miss out on something great, but thats just me being me! Better safe than sorry!
BIGBIRD123
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 07:12 PM
These things are the bomb at getting rid of aptasia and Larry has been a part of Maast for a long time. They only eat aptasia and NOTHING else.
Steve
rz1a
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 07:32 PM
bigbird, how long did it take to notice the aiptasia being gone and in what sized tank?
im having this problem in a 14g biocube. ive used redsea aiptasia X and those things multiply after i inject them. those **** things are smart, theyve started growing in my zoanthids and LPS, so now i really cant use the injection method
BIGBIRD123
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 08:11 PM
I had a couple about 2 yrs ago and it took a couple of weeks to notice anything but soon stuff just started disappearing. I plan on getting some more as I have a few that I can't get to.
Steve
stoneroller
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 08:33 PM
...and when they run out of Aiptasia they die.
don-n-sa
Mon, 7th Jul 2008, 09:44 PM
...and when they run out of Aiptasia they die.
Or you can pass/sell them along to another member.
They work...Larry is a great guy and they do not eat any corals.
drgnbttrfly
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 01:03 AM
I will take one when you pass em on! I tried that apitasia control...it said safe for all desirable life...yep killed all the zoas surrounding the aiptasia...just not the aiptasia!
I was MAD:at_wits_end:
so I have the infection limited to one tank...so it shouldn't take long for me to pass em on!
we could have flatworm and aiptasia nudis that never have to starve with a group this big!
SoLiD
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 02:48 AM
I hear from everyone that Berghia nudibranchs are great, but they can get expensive. I've actually seen them first hand, and all I can say is boy are they tiny. The ones I saw were smaller than half an inch. I don't see how anyone could find them later on after the aiptasia are all gone. Good Luck with getting rid of your aiptasia because god knows I don't want them :p.
With that said, Since "Day One" I've always had at least 2 peppermint shrimp in my tank. I have never ever seen Aiptasia in my tank..... EVER!!! And they are cheap, too. :)
-David
drgnbttrfly
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 04:07 AM
they came with my first attempt at coral from someone else...the peppermints i had never ate the big ones...they were big when i got em...i was like wow whats that cool looking worm...some kind of tube worm?
:bigsmile: duh...newbie oops...
i saw one at RCA on a piece of something and I asked Jake...whats that?
:at_wits_end:
drgnbttrfly
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 04:16 AM
im looking and im thinking it looks good so anyone want to do a group order in august when the next batch is up?
alton
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 06:30 AM
Larry (Instar) is a great guy and I have used his Berghia to clean up a large rock that someone gave me. Acclimation is key to get them to live. Berghia eat aptaisa including the roots, they eat so many that you can not see, whereas peppermint shrimp are lawnmowers.
rz1a
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 07:29 AM
i dont know, i wouldnt chance with peppermint shrimp since i always hear stories of them eating polyps and taking bites out of LPS. i believe they even go after anemones like btas
Ping
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 07:45 AM
Peppermint shrimp eating polyps, LPS, and anemones, that is new to me. Do you have a reputable reference on this, I would like to read up on this.
Good explanation Alton
I have used Larry's Bergias on a tank infested with aiptasia and had success with them. with any natural control, patience is the key. I have peppermint in my current tanks and they have been model citizens.
SoLiD
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 01:20 PM
I have 5 RBTA's in my tank. I started with 1 that split into 5 and all of them had been left alone by the peppermint shrimp. One of the RBTA's that had split of was the size of a nickel and was completely left alone. It is now about the size of an tennis ball. :)
rz1a
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 02:44 PM
Peppermint shrimp (Lysmata wurdemanni) and similar species often, but not always, consume Aiptasia, although they seem to prefer other foods. They also prey on small crustaceans, like copepods and amphipods, in the rock and sand. Sometimes, they are general polyp (coelenterate) predators. In this case, polyps refers to a group of animals that includes corals, anemones, and various other organisms for which we pay money.
Sometimes camel shrimp (Rhynchocinetes durbanensis) are sold as peppermint shrimp, so be careful! In general, many or most of the shrimp sold as peppermint shrimp are not L wurdemanni, but some will eat Aiptasia.
rz1a
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 02:53 PM
you could be right Ping, but it looks like they either eat aiptasia or they dont. and depending on what species you have because a couple are hard to tell apart, you might end up with the wrong one, but theyre hard to distinguish. not talking about the camelback in this case
"Peppermint shrimp, Lysmata wurdemanni, have been recommended to clean up Aiptasia in display tanks. Basically, they work sometimes. I have had tanks where I introduced a few and within weeks all the Aiptasia were gone. In other instances, they don’t seem to eat any Aiptasia , and instead concentrate on stealing food from fish and corals. I have even witnessed them attacking and eating small feather dusters and Astraea snails, so I would say these are at best hit or miss. The one thing to watch out for if you select this method is to be sure that you get the true Peppermint shrimp. You are looking for Lysmata wurdemanni. These are collected out of the tropical West Atlantic Ocean/Caribbean. There are several other shrimp that are also imported and are occasionally mistaken for Peppermint shrimp. The most commonly available is Rhynchocinetes durbanensis, also called the Camel Shrimp or Dancing Shrimp because of the distinctive hump on their back. These are easy enough to distinguish, though. Additionally, there are two other species of Lysmata shrimp that are occasionally available and much easier to confuse with the true Peppermint shrimp. Lysmata rathbunae and Lysmata californica are similar and alleged to be not as likely to consume Aiptasia. Both of these also hail from cooler water, so there is some concern for their long-term viability in typical warm water reef displays."
phrog
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 04:59 PM
I'm in on a group order in August.
barderer
Tue, 8th Jul 2008, 11:34 PM
nuke your large ones with a feeding of kalk then throw a few peppermint shrimp in there and the small ones will be gone in a few days. Has always worked for me.
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