Sea Biscuits Group Order for March 4th, Austin Frag Swap

[thedude]

Hey all,

I've decided to host a group order through sea biscuits to correspond with our frag swap. If all goes according to plan, I'll be able to get the frags that morning and bring them to the swap. The website to look at is http://www.sea-biscuits.us/

This is what they responded with:

"Hi John, absolutely, we've been refreshing the site but should have that complete (finally!) sometime this week, all types of weird and wacked out pieces from all over. I am a big believer in discounts so just let me know what you would be interested in and we can go from there. Discounts depend on the piece (rariety), as well as volume.

I use Deltec putty to mount (only putty that does NOT burn frags, I never lose frags) my frags and put them on 1 inch plastic screens which fit perfectly into egg crate, the putty stays soft enough so its easy for the end user to simply squeeze the plastic base and the frag pops right off."


I'll start listing what everyone wants back at this page.


John

Ok here's the list of people so far:

Hammondegge - Paid
F029 - Tongan Acroporidae Radiodactus $29 ($18.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)
Frag Pack:
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20
FP108 - A Tenuis - $20
FP109 - A Millepora - $20
PLUS A FREE FRAG

Total before discounts: $148
Total after discounts: $124.20

Gcantu - Paid
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20

Total before discounts: $40
Total after discounts: $40 (plus a free frag)

Fishypets -
F001 - Chicago Watermelon Chalice $89 ($57.85)
F005 - Incredible Emerald Green with Purple Polyps Montipora Danae!! $59 ($49)
F014 - Mega Rare Yellow Green Polyp Tortuosa "Mellow Yellow" From Vanuatu!! $119 - no discount
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)

Total before discounts: $316
Total after discounts: $257.70

Thedude - Paid
F002 - Superman Danae $79 - no discount
F032 - Radioactive Digita $39 ($25.35)
F041 - Turaki The Terrible From Timor $59 ($38.35)

Total before discounts: $177
Total after discounts: $142.70

Scuba SteveO -
FT01 - Insane Nuclear Tenuis $39 ($25.35)

Order pending if Gcantu is going back to SA with frags

Total before discounts: $30
Total after discounts: $25.35

Ross - Paid Pending $13
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)


Total before discounts: $88
Total after discounts: $57.20 ($44.20)

Jroescher - Paid
FB02 - Phenominal Deep Orange Plating Montipora Hodgsoni $29 ($18.85)
FB03 - The Ice Man Commeth! Wicked Blue Montipora Undata $39 ($25.35)
FB04 - The Most Excellent, Most Bodacious A. Hoeksemae $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $107
Total after discounts: $69.55

Bigbird123 - Paid
F003 - Most Bodacious "Tahitian Tide" Purple, Pink, and Blue Millipora $59 ($38.35)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $98
Total after discounts: $63.70

FREE SHIPPING with a total so far of:

$1004 (before)
$780.40 (after)

A Savings of: $223.60

************************************************** ***

On to the DISCOUNTS

Tom is hooking us up! First off... FREE shipping!

Discounts for Corals are as follows:

35% off any listed price with the exception of the following pieces due to them being either already discounted or mega mega mega rare:
- frag packs (for obvious reasons, but i will through in 2 free frags per frag pack)
-Superman (that one's obvious)
-Mellow Yellow Tort
-Lokani (purple and the yellow)
-Flamingo
-Green/purple Danae (I will discount that one to $49)
-Vanuatu pieces will discount at 20% because they are exceptionally rare pieces

Tom also promises to have his beast of a site fixed by Friday (thank god)[/i]



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Payment Information

Orders will be closed on March 1st! After that time, I will not be receiving any orders and expect to have most everyone's payment. Remember that the order will be arriving March 4th.

Paypal will be sent to jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu then forwarded to Tom at sea biscuits as the full amount. Please do not send anything to my paypal until you have confirmed with me. how much you owe. My email address is jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu if you have any questions.

Also remember, Tom is still updating the site so more corals pop up daily.[/b]

[cpreefguy]

Do they have the putty on their page?

[hammondegge]

thanks john,
so far i'll take FO29 and FO35. what a teaser. ;)

[gcantu]

They have a special with 6 frags for $119. Does anyone want to go in 3 ways and get the frag special. I am looking at two, so if we go 3 ways it would be roughly $20 a frag before discount and shipping if any.

I am only looking at purchasing two so if anyone else wants in, that's cool. As long as we can do the full order of 6. I live in SA and will be willing to drive up to Austin to pick up and meet at FinAddict for delivery thereafter.

These are the ones I am looking into:
Product Code: FP103
Location: Bali
Species: A. Valida

Product Code: FP107
Location: Solomon
Species: A. Secale

If I don't get any takers then just cancel me out of this one.

George.

[fishypets]

John,

Here is what I want
F014 $119.00
F018 $49.00
F005 $59.00
F001 $89.00

That will do me :D

[LoneStar]

John,

Here is what I want
F014 $119.00
F018 $49.00
F005 $59.00
F001 $89.00

That will do me :D
:innocent big spender!!

[fishypets]

LoneStar,

Did you see the corals I want? They are freaking amazing.

[LoneStar]

nope didn't have time, nor the money to bother looking

[hammondegge]

I may do that with you george, i dont see any images on the frag pack page though. did you find these under a different link??

[gcantu]

I can't see alot of the pics. I just clicked on the Discount Frag Packs link, (http://lasps.us/frags/packs/packspage1/ ), and chose from there. That was the only page I can see pics of the frags from. I guess I'll try from home to see if it's just my computer at work or if it's their site that is not showing the pics.

[hammondegge]

thanks george, i found them there. if you just want the two i will take
fp109
fp108
fp107
fp103

[JeremyGlen]

The site, except the discount frag page, is basically all under construction and has no pics.

The only possible corals I found were the ones in the 6 for $229 section. I kinda think thats way too much to spend for a 3/4" frag. Especially since those corals don't look like they are very rare.

[gcantu]

That'll work. I'm in, let me know when we need to pay and how much.

[truck0000]

Dint see any zoos or rics. Do they have any?

[gcantu]

Just click on the boxes that have the (x) on them and it should take you to another page with the full pic of the frag you want to see. Maybe they will have the site up within the next couple of days and allow us to see the rest of the pics. I may just want to order more if I get to see all the pics. I believe we have until the end of the month to see what we want to order for March 4th pickup.

[thedude]

They should have zoos and rics. Call or email Tom @ 804-915-7155 or sales@sea-biscuits.us

The site is going to be finished soon so don't fret.

[thedude]

Frag list updated on page one.

I've emailed Tom the list so far and expect to hear back from him soon regarding any applicable discounts or shipping charges.

Remember this order will be scheduled to arrive March 4th.

[hammondegge]

thanks john. an austin swap meet is long overdue. looking forward to it.
robert

[scuba_steveo]

Insane Nuclear Tenuis
Order Code: FT01

If gcantu will deliver to FA

maybe more or something else...I am having trouble with their site

[thedude]

Tom responded and said he has zoo's, rics, three types of xenia, blastos, etc.. still waiting on a clear response on when the site will be finished but they're working as fast as possible.

He also is trying to work out our discount, as it may be on a rarity basis.

John

[thedude]

Discounts are up, website should be finished by Friday.

[mojo]

John, I'm in! I'll wait until their website is finished before picking my corals -- too frustrating to click every red "x" that's presented. This is going to be great!

Mike J

[thedude]

Agreed. The website makes me want to never get on the internet again.

Remember SA folks, gcantu said he'd pick up frags and drive them back up to SA.

[satx-94integraLS]

oooo gcantu, your kind offer to pick up the stuff is appreciated. this will arrive just in time for my tank!!

now i have to go see what i want... will update poast later!

[BIGBIRD123]

I'm in but will also wait till site is up to order. I'll probably get a frag pack.

Steve

[satx-94integraLS]

yeah the pix are mostly red xs on this end. i can view some if i click but not all

[Ross]

I'll take Order Code: F004, F030, and F035. (39, 39, 29)

[gcantu]

OK guys, I am going to have to change the pickup location from FinAddict to my house. I only live about 2-3 miles from FinAddict. I figure I wouldn't want to stand out in the parking lot waiting for pickups while the stuff hung out in my truck. I can just take them home and wait there. I will post directions when the time comes.

[satx-94integraLS]

bluh youre out on the NE side huh? no worries. if its possible, can you meet up with a few people on the NW side? if not, no worries. gotta go surf the page and see what i want now.

what day do we need to pay? id like to prepay and get it out of the way ;)

[gcantu]

I would, but after a days worth of driving, I am just going to want to go home and rest. I am one of those people that hates spending my day in a car.
Sorry

[satx-94integraLS]

no worries. my car will have some major upgrades by then, so ill see how quickly i can get there from the NW side :skeezy

[thedude]

Post updated on first page.

Remember that Tom is still adding more frags daily.

[Ross]

paypal sent

[satx-94integraLS]

eep count me out. sry

[thedude]

Thanks Ross, first page has been updated.

[jroescher]

Here's what I want:

FB02 Montipora Hodgsoni $29.00
FB03 Blue Montipora Undata $39.00
FBo4 Hoeksemae $39.00

Let me know what I owe, I'm ready to pay up.

Didn't mention which Friday the site would by up by did they?

[fishypets]

Didn't mention which Friday the site would by up by did they?

Sometime in 2008 :D

[thedude]

Didn't mention which Friday the site would by up by did they?

Sometime in 2008 :D

Yep the website is still a huge mess... I have a feeling it will never be finished.

[thedude]

Updated, I'll PM everyone with what they owe.

[fishypets]

I thought they were free??

[thedude]

Haha very funny.

[BIGBIRD123]

I would like to order:

1) F003-Tahitian Tide Purple/Pink/Blue Milli-$59.00
2) F035 "Chips"- $39.00

Send me total and I'll Paypal.

Thanks,
Steve

[thedude]

Updated

[Ross]

I would like to add Order Code: F018 the blue milli. I will paypal 31.85 more to complete my order.

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
Payment send ($64 even) and Thanks for putting this together.

Steve

[gcantu]

Payment has been sent ($40).

George

[thedude]

No problem putting this together guys, thanks for sending a timely payment! Updated

[thedude]

Last chance guys to get some premium frags at discounted prices. This thing will close at midnight tomorrow and the payment will go to him on Thursday.

John

[thedude]

Bump?

[thedude]

Ok here's the deal you guys, if you can get payment to me by NOON THURSDAY, you can still get in on this order.

The deal with the forum is you can only quick reply and to find a thread simply use the search function.

[thedude]

Ok here's the deal you guys, if you can get payment to me by NOON THURSDAY, you can still get in on this order.

The deal with the forum is you can only quick reply and to find a thread simply use the search function.

[fishypets]

John,

I sent payment last night. Did you get it?

[thedude]

Yeah Clint I did, thanks.

[thedude]

Hey all,

I've decided to host a group order through sea biscuits to correspond with our frag swap. If all goes according to plan, I'll be able to get the frags that morning and bring them to the swap. The website to look at is http://www.sea-biscuits.us/

This is what they responded with:

"Hi John, absolutely, we've been refreshing the site but should have that complete (finally!) sometime this week, all types of weird and wacked out pieces from all over. I am a big believer in discounts so just let me know what you would be interested in and we can go from there. Discounts depend on the piece (rariety), as well as volume.

I use Deltec putty to mount (only putty that does NOT burn frags, I never lose frags) my frags and put them on 1 inch plastic screens which fit perfectly into egg crate, the putty stays soft enough so its easy for the end user to simply squeeze the plastic base and the frag pops right off."


I'll start listing what everyone wants back at this page.


John

Ok here's the list of people so far:

Hammondegge - Paid
F029 - Tongan Acroporidae Radiodactus $29 ($18.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)
Frag Pack:
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20
FP108 - A Tenuis - $20
FP109 - A Millepora - $20
PLUS A FREE FRAG

Total before discounts: $148
Total after discounts: $124.20

Gcantu - Paid
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20

Total before discounts: $40
Total after discounts: $40 (plus a free frag)

Fishypets - Paid
F001 - Chicago Watermelon Chalice $89 ($57.85)
F005 - Incredible Emerald Green with Purple Polyps Montipora Danae!! $59 ($49)
F014 - Mega Rare Yellow Green Polyp Tortuosa "Mellow Yellow" From Vanuatu!! $119 - no discount
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)

Total before discounts: $316
Total after discounts: $257.70

Thedude - Paid
F002 - Superman Danae $79 - no discount
F032 - Radioactive Digita $39 ($25.35)
F041 - Turaki The Terrible From Timor $59 ($38.35)

Total before discounts: $177
Total after discounts: $142.70

Scuba SteveO -
FT01 - Insane Nuclear Tenuis $39 ($25.35)

Order pending if Gcantu is going back to SA with frags

Total before discounts: $30
Total after discounts: $25.35

Ross - Paid
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)


Total before discounts: $88
Total after discounts: $57.20 ($44.20)

Jroescher - Paid
FB02 - Phenominal Deep Orange Plating Montipora Hodgsoni $29 ($18.85)
FB03 - The Ice Man Commeth! Wicked Blue Montipora Undata $39 ($25.35)
FB04 - The Most Excellent, Most Bodacious A. Hoeksemae $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $107
Total after discounts: $69.55

Bigbird123 - Paid
F003 - Most Bodacious "Tahitian Tide" Purple, Pink, and Blue Millipora $59 ($38.35)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $98
Total after discounts: $63.70

Mike J -
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)
FB11 - Deep Blue Tenuis With Neon Circlets $29 ($18.85)
FJ02 - Yellow Gold Hemphrichi "Fools Gold" $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $156
Total after discounts: $101.40



FREE SHIPPING with a total so far of:

$1160 (before)
$881.80 (after)

A Savings of: $278.20

************************************************** ***

On to the DISCOUNTS

Tom is hooking us up! First off... FREE shipping!

Discounts for Corals are as follows:

35% off any listed price with the exception of the following pieces due to them being either already discounted or mega mega mega rare:
- frag packs (for obvious reasons, but i will through in 2 free frags per frag pack)
-Superman (that one's obvious)
-Mellow Yellow Tort
-Lokani (purple and the yellow)
-Flamingo
-Green/purple Danae (I will discount that one to $49)
-Vanuatu pieces will discount at 20% because they are exceptionally rare pieces

Tom also promises to have his beast of a site fixed by Friday (thank god)[/i]



************************************************** *********

Payment Information

Orders will be closed on March 1st! After that time, I will not be receiving any orders and expect to have most everyone's payment. Remember that the order will be arriving March 4th.

Paypal will be sent to jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu then forwarded to Tom at sea biscuits as the full amount. Please do not send anything to my paypal until you have confirmed with me. how much you owe. My email address is jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu if you have any questions.

Also remember, Tom is still updating the site so more corals pop up daily.[/b]

[thedude]

Closed!

[thedude]

This is the Final Order Placed

Hammondegge - Paid
F029 - Tongan Acroporidae Radiodactus $29 ($18.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)
Frag Pack:
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20
FP108 - A Tenuis - $20
FP109 - A Millepora - $20
PLUS A FREE FRAG

Total before discounts: $148
Total after discounts: $124.20

Gcantu - Paid
FP103 - A Valida - $20
FP107 - A Secale - $20

Total before discounts: $40
Total after discounts: $40 (plus a free frag)

Fishypets - Paid
F001 - Chicago Watermelon Chalice $89 ($57.85)
F005 - Incredible Emerald Green with Purple Polyps Montipora Danae!! $59 ($49)
F014 - Mega Rare Yellow Green Polyp Tortuosa "Mellow Yellow" From Vanuatu!! $119 - no discount
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)

Total before discounts: $316
Total after discounts: $257.70

Thedude - Paid
F002 - Superman Danae $79 - no discount
F032 - Radioactive Digita $39 ($25.35)
F041 - Turaki The Terrible From Timor $59 ($38.35)

Total before discounts: $177
Total after discounts: $142.70

Ross - Paid
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)


Total before discounts: $88
Total after discounts: $57.20 ($44.20)

Jroescher - Paid
FB02 - Phenominal Deep Orange Plating Montipora Hodgsoni $29 ($18.85)
FB03 - The Ice Man Commeth! Wicked Blue Montipora Undata $39 ($25.35)
FB04 - The Most Excellent, Most Bodacious A. Hoeksemae $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $107
Total after discounts: $69.55

Bigbird123 - Paid
F003 - Most Bodacious "Tahitian Tide" Purple, Pink, and Blue Millipora $59 ($38.35)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $98
Total after discounts: $63.70

Mike J -
F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)
F035 - The Highly Prized "Chips" $39 ($25.35)
FB11 - Deep Blue Tenuis With Neon Circlets $29 ($18.85)
FJ02 - Yellow Gold Hemphrichi "Fools Gold" $39 ($25.35)

Total before discounts: $156
Total after discounts: $101.40

[truck0000]

Dude can we bring some equipment to the frag swap I just a new skimmer and would like to trade my CSS ^% for some frags if anyone is interested.
LMK

[chrismikea]

I am the only one whos dissapointed? I got 3 frags, only ordered 2. 2 of them were the totally wrong corals, and one of them was totally RTN'd. I order a blue milli and a chips, the chips looks fine, but i got a frag labeled "teal" that was OK, with a small spot of RTN, and a frag labeled 'cobalt' that was totally white when it came in.....i dont know what the deal is but this guy messed up my order...

[chrismikea]

WOOPS THIS IS ROSS POSTING I WAS JUST SIGNED IN UNDER CHRIS' NAME! THAT IS ROSS'S POST!

[Ross]

Just to confirm that was my post...

[thedude]

To all who ordered:

No frags should be RTN'd upon arrival and if they were, simply PM me with any grievance and I'll relay them to Tom and work to get you a solution. There were a few poor shippers but Tom has assured me that he will take care of us.

John

[mojo]

First off I love my frags - just awesome! Thanks again for putting all of this together Dude, great job! Sadly my blue Milli arrived dead but that's OK, the freebie he sent is just gorgeous. I went to Tom's site just now and it appears that his domain name has expired?? Hope we'll still be able to get our RTN'd frags replaced.

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
Once again, I appreciate your work on this order. My "chips" looks great but the "Tahitian Tide" frag right now even looks ALL white under actinics. There seems to be no color at all. The bonus frag looks the same. I'll see what happens when my MH come on later but as I say, as of now they look to be dead. I'm not PO'd but I hope there is no problem getting replacements, if need be. I hope you will be happy with the frag I gave you.

Steve

[Ross]

Well the one labeled 'teal' that came in with a spot of RTN at the base has RTN'd more overnight, not looking good. I emailed seabiscuits and i'll see what they can do.

[hammondegge]

Yep thanks sooo much for putting this together. I enjoyed the swap, meeting new members and you. nice store too. these corals have taken a beating though. i cannot follow up on my last PM to you as the PM is not working. the two corals marked 'pink mili' and 'blue mili' had lost all water and were bleached on arrival. The Tahitian Tide was dry, bleached and crushed. the corals marked 'Rad' and 'nuke' both had tissue loss.

Well as of this morning all three mili's are goners, the tenuis is half rtn'd and the 'Rad' is slowly losing tissue.

On a high note, the chips and the tri-color look great!

Will you please pass this on to the seabiscuit people? I tried to email them this morning but thier site is down

thanks
robert

[BIGBIRD123]

Ross,
I'd say let John (thedude) work this out. He was the one that got all this together with them. He told me yesterday that the guy said to check everything out and that he (seabisquits) would make things good. I'm not telling you what you should do but i would let John give it a shot. I just met him for the first time yesterday but IMHO he's a stand-up guy. I just say give him a chance.

My halides are on now and I can for sure say that the "Tahitian Tide" and the Teal frag are RTN'd. They are solid white. My "Chips" frag has great polyp extension and color.

Steve

[thedude]

All,

I'll get into contact with Tom today and let you know what kind of outcome I'll be working towards. It sounds to me that all the millis we ordered simply didn't make it through the shipping process. Thanks for the vote of confidence as well guys. Tom called me this mornind and I unfortunately missed his call but expressed that his website is down and took his email with it. He's very sorry for the inconvience but as I've said, I'm on top of it!

John

[BIGBIRD123]

Thanks for the update John. I am very confident that you can remedy this problem. If need be, I would be willing to accept other frags (of my choosing) if shipping the Milli's is a problem.

Steve

[Ross]

He just left me a voicemail, he said that we can do another order and he will ship us the frags, or he will refund us our money. Sounds like a good guy.

Fishypets, how did that green/blue polyp monti you got look? I am thinking about getting a frag but only if yours looks good.

[thedude]

Ok what I'd really like to do is compile a listing on this page of what RTN'd or was DOA. Tom asked me to compile this list for another order to be shipped to us in a few weeks, with frags he'll have mounted and stabilized.

Mojo:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA

Fishypets:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA
-Emerald Danae - RTN

Ross:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA
-Teal Bonus Frag - RTN

Hammondegge:
-Tahitian Tide - DOA
-Blue Milli - DOA
-Pink Milli - DOA
-Tongan Radioactus (RAD) - RTN
-"Nuke" - RTN
-Chips

BigBird:
-Tahitian Tide - DOA
-"Tealinator" Freebie - DOA

Gcantu
-Freebie - DOA
-Coral from frag pack - DOA

Jroescher
-Montipora Hodgsoni - DOA



Those are the problems I've heard of as of now. The milli's all seem to have been very poor shippers whether this be due to the recent mounting on to the frag plugs, or Tom's recent system switchover.

Again, let me know if you'd be alright with putting this order together in several weeks time, or if you'd like to speak to him about getting a refund.

Thanks again guys for a great frag swap.

John

[Ross]

Man thats alot of dead corals, what a shame.

[BIGBIRD123]

Man, I see polyps on my "Chips" but it is turning white at the base, not a good thing. CR$P! I hope it's just my imagination. Ross, how does your "Chips" look?


Steve

[hammondegge]

same with mine steve. the chips had extended polyps and was looking good this morning. i just came home to it sloughing, all the others are skeletons except the tri-color which is holding on. looks like i will lose all of them except the tri-color, i hope.

[jroescher]

My thanks for putting this together also John.

Between the frags I got from other members and the extra freebies from Sea-Buscuits, I lost track of what was what.

But.... my Montipora Hodgsoni is very much dead. The Undata is doubtful and the Hoeksemae maybe (see a couple of polyps out in the white parts).
Nothing is colored up at all. I got something labeled Purple, but it is far from purple-maybe yellow or brown, but it's covered in polyps and seems healthy.

[Ross]

On my chips it came with 2 small frags, 1 is totally gone but the other one has polyps out and looks awesome!

[BIGBIRD123]

I can't help but think it was the packaging. Mine was double bagged but in itself with one rubberband. All three bags were leaking.

Steve

[Ross]

Mine were double bagged too, but none were leaking....

[BIGBIRD123]

There was alot of water in the main bag and so I assumed that the smaller bags were leaking. They didn't have alot of water in them.

Steve

[jroescher]

There was alot of water in the main bag and so I assumed that the smaller bags were leaking. They didn't have alot of water in them.



Mine were the same way.

[thedude]

Mine were all double bagged with no leakers and the superman frag I purchases was in 6 or 7 bags. It literally had a shield of plastic bag. All of my frags are mounted in my tank with the Deltec putty he used to mount them as well and are fully extended.

Again I think these frags were from coral colonies already stressed by a fluctuation in KH Tom had experienced in his tanks, and that this was further complicated by them being freshly cut. Let's hope the next batch does better!

[fishypets]

John,

Thanks for staying on top of this I'm sure you have better things to do. If we decide to replace the frags I would like to request that the freshly cut frags be unmounted. We also may find out that no matter what the milli that everyone lost is not a very good shipper and sometimes this happens.

Ross,

As of now my blue polyped monti seems to be STN'N. There is still tissue as of now but I will check for you again tomorrow. I really think that a freshly cut frag placed in the middle of puddy is not a good thing. I prefer my frags unmounted so I can do what I want with them. The plug limits you if you did not drill a bunch of holes in your live rock befoe adding to your tank.

To all who lost frags, please be patient and this will all be worked out in no time. Heck there are some sites that don't even offer guarntees much less service after the sale. I think Tom has shown that he cares about making us happy and given time he will.

Clint

[mojo]

My chips polyped out immediately while the bag was floating in my tank for temperature acclimation. As far as I can tell, the polyps have never retracted since hitting my tank. One of my favs for sure!

[gcantu]

Well I've been trying to give mine the benefit of the doubt, but from the 3 frags I got, only one has made it. I believe the freebie and one of the other ones did not make it. The freebie was DOA from the getgo and the second did not make it overnight. :(

[thedude]

I'm so sorry guys that all of you are loosing frags like this and obviously, if I thought this was going to happen I would have possibly even delayed the ship date. Sometime in the next few days I'll send the completed list to Tom and see what he says. I'd like to wait a few days for some of you who seem to have frags falling out even as I post. Again guys, I really am sorry and I'm sure we'll get this worked out quickly.

John

[hammondegge]

thanks for the opportunity in the first place, dont beat yourself up. as Clint said, it happens. i am sorry that you are still stuck in the middle though it sounds like Tom will work it out. and poor corals.

[hammondegge]

Now that the seabiscuits page is back up i can verify that i received some substitute corals.

[thedude]

Yes some substitute corals were given when the coral ordered was either not available, or completely browned out. I have emailed Tom this preliminary list and please let me know what other frags do not survive what appears to be a horrible shipment.

[thedude]

Talked with Tom and here's the email he sent to me:

Wow, Im floored, Ive honestly never had that many die off, but like I said I will definately cover it.

What I would like to do is reship to you guys in 2 weeks. That will give me the time to get my new system straight, get these pieces fragged and stable. I will of course cover the cost of shipping.

The other option, and this is available to whomever in the group wants, I can provide them with a refund. I cannot of course refund on freebies, but will replace on the next shipment to you guys. Please send me sincere apologies to the guys in the group. Feel free to call me if you wish

Thanks,
Tom

[fishypets]

Man talk about customer service. His #1 goal is the customer, and that is very important now a days.

[Ross]

well my chips was doing great, polyps out and everything, then it just RTN'd in a couple hours. ohh well.

[hammondegge]

Yes, admirable. Especially with such a fragile product. I lost all seven frags, the last of which went really fast overnight. the only thing that i can think of that they all had in common was no air in the bags. i believe if there is no air or oxygen in then there can be no gas exchange resulting in high concentrations of toxins in the water. am i anywhere close with this? anyhow, this together with alk issues and the system change at seabiscuits maybe these corals were just worn out.
Thanks Tom for standing behind your corals, that goes a long ways.
I will gladly wait for replacment frags.
robert

[BIGBIRD123]

In this hobby, it's a God-send to have someone that interested in the customer. Tom, seems to be one of these. I would probably like to changer from the Milli that I got but I would still like to have one of the "Chips" frags. John, next time we get together, I'll bring you a good frag of something "nice" from my tank just for your trouble. I know that this is probably taking you away from something and I appreciate it. You did a great job with this! LMK when you need to know what I would like to change to.

Steve

[jroescher]

I'm still in. I don't mind waiting. I will need some advance notice so I can make arrangements to get off work and get a car to pick up from wherever.

[gcantu]

I don't mind waiting as well. Just let me know when and where. I wouldn't mind going back to AA to pick up the frags, it was a pretty cool store with great customer service. Very nice selection of corals and fish.

[thedude]

I appreciate it guys. As I work out the final details I'll be sure to give everyone advance notice of the proceedings and take any suggestions.

Gcantu - Thank you very much for your comment about Austin Aquariums. I do my best to take care of the saltwater animals there.

[Ross]

Whats goin on? Has everyone talked to him about replacement frags? I talked to him a week 2 ago and he said he would frag mine....just wanna make sure we dont forget this...

[hammondegge]

i talked to him a couple of days back and he said he was still moving tanks and it may be a few more weeks.

[thedude]

I talked to him last night and we're still waiting for his tanks and corals to fully stabilize so we don't experience more losses on the second go round. He said i will probably be another two weeks before he felt comfortable sending the corals.

And don't worry, I won't forget about this one ;)

[thedude]

Ok guys here's the deal. Tom wants to ship out replacements on the week of April 10th - 15th. I'd obviously prefer to get them the 15th, Saturday, to make it easier to get most of these frags to ya'll. Let me know if that works for everyone. Also, he still is selling the Deltec reef putty which doesn't burn frags and is really great if anyone is interested.

John

[aquadoc]

John I will take some deltec putty. When are you doing another order?

[mojo]

April 15th looks great for me. John, would you be able to consider another opportunity for swapping/trading etc. at Austin Aquariums?

[hammondegge]

i'm going to be out of town 14th-19th. i dont want to be a spoiler though so if everyone needs to do this on saturday maybe i can work out a seperate shipment with Tom. If we dont take the shipment on sat then tues-thurs works for me.
john, did tom mention to you anything about what he will be able to replace. is he capable of reproducing the order or do we go shopping again?
i'll take some Deltc putty too.
robert

[thedude]

Tom did say that he had some colonies die but as far as I know, the order will be the same. I'll double check on that and let you all know. If anyone else has a problem with this date we could always push it back a week?

We won't be doing another frag swap for awhile as I think we need time to let stuff grow, and I don't really want to do another one for awhile :P. If anyone wants to get in on this replacement order I guess go ahead and email me about what you want. Those of you who want deltec putty I'll PM you sometime this weekend.

John

John

[BIGBIRD123]

I don't have a problem when but it needs to be on Sat. for it to work for me. I also would like the putty. LMK. John, my changes were sent in right? How's the frag doing?

Steve

[Ross]

Is anyone coming down to SA? If not can someone hold my frags until they can make it down or i can make it up?

[thedude]

I just realized that the weekend of the 19th is Easter so obviously, I'm going to delay shipping by a week. I personally won't be in town, and I don't trust any of the postal carriers over a holiday weekend. So the weekend of April 22nd is when I'd like to see the frags come in. That's a saturday and I'll meet those of you who want to meet at AA there, or drive out to meet you somewhere else.

I'm going to send Tom the list I have finalized and will post it here as well. I'll double check that all the corals are replaceable and report the results back here. I'll also find the exact price of the two part purple Deltec epoxy and PM those of you who expressed an interest.

[thedude]

Dead list:

Mojo:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA

Fishypets:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA
-Emerald Danae - RTN

Ross:
-Crown Blue Milli - DOA
-Teal Bonus Frag - RTN
-Chips - RTN

Hammondegge:
-Tahitian Tide - DOA
-Blue Milli - DOA
-Pink Milli - DOA
-Tongan Radioactus (RAD) - RTN
-"Nuke" - RTN
-Chips
-Lost one more frag as well (I don't know which one at present)

BigBird:
-Tahitian Tide - DOA (would like to have it replaced with either F031, F030, or F028)
-"Tealinator" Freebie - DOA
-Chips

Gcantu
-Freebie - DOA
-Coral from frag pack - DOA

Jroescher
-Montipora Hodgsoni - DOA
-Montipora Undata
-Hoeksemae

[Ross]

yup, if you could remind him that i want the diablo digi in place of the blue milli.

[jroescher]

I'm good for the 22nd.

If he wants to just send me several frags of the Montipora Hodgsoni instead I'd be happy with that. Or resend the original. Either way. None of mine made it.

[gcantu]

I might be able to make up that weekend as well. I think I may have a family reunion to go to, but I am trying to get out of it. I'll see and let you know.

[hammondegge]

22nd is good for me

[thedude]

Ok these corals are coming in on the 22nd. The purple Deltec putty is 13.95 a tube so let me know how many you want. Paypal will be the same at jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu and if anyone is interested in anything else, shoot me a PM or an email.

John

[hammondegge]

john, do you know if he intends to replace corals as ordered, or as sent, or other?
i will send paypal for one tube.
robert

[BIGBIRD123]

I don't think I'm interested in the putty.

Steve

[thedude]

He should be sending exactly what he sent before. I'll double check and let you know if anything changes.

John

[Ross]

I talked to him before and he said he would send me a frag of the diablo digi in place of the milli. If you could remind him that would be awesome!

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
What time we gonna do this? I wanna come by and look at your tank and also go by Clint's.

Steve

[mojo]

I'd like to place a vote for around 1:30 or 2:00. This would give the San Antonio folks plenty of time to get to Austin, everyone could feed their bellies, and I'd be able to pick up and acclimate my coral while my daughter is napping (awwwww).

[BIGBIRD123]

It really don't matter to me but I do have several things to do...Fishy's house, Aquadoc's and the dude's...basically a TANK TOUR. LOL!

Steve

[thedude]

2 sounds good to me... however I got this email from him so ya'll need to tell me what you'd prefer...

"John heres the deal, finally figured out what was causing my issues, apparently my ro membrane was shot and was allowing high ammonia levels past, basically I was dumping city water into my system (DUH). Anyway, I do have quite a few pieces coming in this week (stuff I have now seems to be sticking), plus my colonies that I saved, next weekend (the 28th) would work better since I will have even more stock, but should hit a decent fill rate even if you guys still want it, the only one that I will definately not be able to replace is the Tealinator (those were free anyway), I will make a comparable subsitute. I should be able to get enough of the millis by friday, will keep you posted"

[jroescher]

Well the 28th gets my vote. I just recently got schduled to work on the 22nd and haven't figured out a way to get to Austin on the 22nd.

[mojo]

jroescher, you probably meant to say the 29th (Saturday), right? Hey dude, I guess I'd defer the decision regarding a date to your judgement. Both Saturdays are fine with me, but we'll have to see how many out-of-towners can get here. Unless you think we'd all receive healthier corals by waiting until the 29th, and if that's the case, then that should be the new date. What do others think?

[thedude]

Ok so my judgement is to postpone it another week because Tom seems to think it's the best option. Anyone else?

[BIGBIRD123]

That's alright with me. I like the idea of a better choice on frags. ...and John ... that Lord may be a colony by then...LOL! How's the frag doing?

Steve

[thedude]

Everything in my tank is doing great! And the lord has... hold on let me count... 21 heads right now, I should be able to get you a decent frag no problemo.

[thedude]

Executive decision effective immediately... the shipment will be delayed to the 28th to get healthier frags and obtain a better fill rate.

John

[jroescher]

Thanks John. So we pick them up Friday the 28th, or Saturday the 29th?


John

[thedude]

Sorry for the lack of clarification. The frags will be shipped the 28th and available the 29th for pickup. If there are no objections, 2 PM at Austin Aquariums seemed to have worked last time. I'm more than open to meeting somewhere else though.

John

[BIGBIRD123]

Sounds good to me...

[thedude]

All,

I got another email from Tom, read it and let me know what you think yet again.

"OK here's the deal, got in some nice montis and acros last week. Quite a few of the acros took off in the last few days. The ultimate cause of my whole nightmare was that my membrane on my ro/di was fried and I did not know it, when I cut the system over I had 400 gallons of ammonia contaminated water mix in, the rest is history. Once I found this out I did mass water changes (to the extent that my orp was 150, orp of freshsaltwater is 133 to give you an idea). I need the system to sit a few weeks (it would be stupid to get anymore in or put any more in from my old stock which is at a friends but in a spare tank and has colored down), and then I will get in more acros. I have the blue millis now, a chips, and tahitian tide. So far frags have hung in there, the montis are doing well and i will post pictures of them this week. I also recieved a wicked sarmentosa that I will post this week, fire coral and cats paw.

Its up to you guys on what we do here, the offer still stands on the refund, I can ship what I have if you like, and fill in the rest order when this thing FINALLY settles down. I think its pretty close as these colonies did well for several days but needs time to settle out"

John

[mojo]

I think we should wait until his stock is healthy and there's less risk of loss during transport and acclimation. It sounds like these poor corals are going through hell right now, and it would probably be to our advantage to delay the shipment until they're healthier. Personally, I really want my chips frag, so I'm willing to wait and do not want a refund.

[BIGBIRD123]

I agree and I really appreciate John keeping us informed. I think Tom is doing his best to get everything right and will eventually be able to deliver this order. I've had three tank crashes or near crashes in the last three years and it is hard to recover from them. Maybe by the time we get these frags they will have some encrusting on them.

Thanks again John for what your doing especially since you did this for no gain for yourself.

Steve

[thedude]

Ok so I've heard from two people and my idea is along the same. So, for those of you who wish to wait for the corals, we'll keep on waiting! I really do believe that we'll get the best result if we follow Tom's advice and I'm absolutely confident he will take care of us. If anyone would like their money back, PM me and I'll get you into contact with Tom.

John

PS: Thanks Steve for the compliments. I enjoyed discussing "reef stuff" with you over the phone.

[hammondegge]

i dont mind waiting to get healthy corals. would hate to experience the same again. and as mojo said i would really like another crack at the "chips". however i dont want to take a grab bag of stuff that i do not need. can you ask tim if he can give us a list of what he can commit to for this order? if there isnt enough to go around i will gladly wait as long as tim thinks is necessary.

[jroescher]

Waiting is OK with me.

[mojo]

Hey John, I just realized that made an incorrect statement above. I mentioned that I didn't have my chips frag, but of course I do. I guess mine was one of the lucky ones that lived. The frag I received DOA was:

F018 - Bodacious Royal Blue Milli "Crown Royal", The Crown In Any Collection! $49 ($31.85)

Just wanted to clarify that so I don't get another chips frag (which is doing quite well, BTW).

[BIGBIRD123]

Just kinda wanting to know the status....My frags would have had about a 1/2" of growth by now...

Steve

[thedude]

I know Steve and I got these emails today:

Email 1:

Eureka! Well I have confirmed it, when I set this system up I used Silicone II instead of Silicone I. While it does not have anti mold stuff in it, whatever is in the stuff puts off something which is enough to cause trites at .025 on the salifert scale. Whatever the case, it will take me a week to shut this down, remove the old and resilicone, but I should be good in a few weeks, will keep you posted

My Response:

Haha jeeze this tank is becoming a monster in disguise. Have you indeed fragged most of the corals to allow them some time to encrust onto the putty? Also, what do you think a reasonable ETA to receive these corals is?

2nd Email:

I have a few pieces in the system now but they look horrible because of the toxin, I can pull the vast majority from varying sources very quickly without a problem, I should have the new silicone in place in the next few days, change out500 gal and probably a few weeks from there. Call me if you like, Im at 804-334-9875, as I said before I am more than willing to do a refund, I had no idea when using that crap it would cause this as others reported good luck with it but this HAS to be whats causing the issue. Trust me I am very aggrevated about the situation, all this money tied up in it and no revenue. I have been keeping sps for 10 years and NEVER seen anything like it

I still leave it in ya'lls hands but I do know that a few people feel that it is money already spent and they're willing to wait for healthy frags. If you do want a refund call him at the number above and let him know what group order you were in. My name is John Howerton and he should know what you're talking about.

John

[hammondegge]

i'll wait

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
Please understand that nothing bad was intended toward you. I don't mind waiting but I just feel that a larger frag is warranted. I am sorry that you are in the middle of this and only did it for us. My thanks to you and an apology if you think I was upset with you.

Steve

[fishypets]

John,

Good things come to those who wait. Just LMK when I should pick up the frags.

[thedude]

Steve,

No apology necessary my friend! I also am sorry that I'm in the middle of all this but like Clint said, good things come to those who wait. I'll keep all of you updated as I've tried to do since March or earlier lol.

John

[BIGBIRD123]

Any news?

[BIGBIRD123]

Well, I talked to Tom the owner today. He said that he would be shipping 20 FREE frags to us next week, just for our waiting for him to get this system back up and running. These frags are coming from Chicago. He said his system would be up and running and he should be able to ship by Sept. 1st. He really apologized for this and wanted to make things right. Just thought to give everyone an update.

Steve

[gcantu]

So who all gets one????

[BIGBIRD123]

Looks to me to be about two (2) a piece and we can draw straws on the last five (5). These are for the people that Paid for the first group as a PEACE OFFERING until we get the frags in Sept. Will keep updated.

Steve

[jroescher]

Yes, keep up posted please. Thanks for checking into this again.

[thedude]

I've been talking to Tom about all of this as well and hope to receive the box of free frags next Friday. I'm trying to get him to get a list of who gets what pieces or write it on the bag.

John

[jroescher]

By next Friday, I hope you mean July 7. The weekend of June 30 I will be out of town, and am guessing a lot of other people will be too.

[gcantu]

I need to make sure which weekend too because I need to plan for a road trip up there.

[jroescher]

Any more news on this?

[thedude]

Yes I actually have good news to report!

Tom is opening a retail store and should have full replacements of our original frags in early September, or he is still offering a refund. The really cool thing is that his business partner in Chicago, is sending us 20 free frags this coming Friday! I have no idea what we'll be getting but he said they were cherry frags and again, this is his way of saying sorry for everything. We'll still get replacements for the originals in September.

On another note...

Sorry for the short notice guys but I'm getting in some of the Deltec reef putty and wanted to know if anyone wanted any. This stuff is purple, doesn't burn frags, and is the best reef epoxy available.

The cost is 12 dollars a tube.

The order is being shipped Tuesday so I will not accept any orders past midnight Monday.

My paypal address is jhowerton@mail.utexas.edu

John

[Ross]

I dont want the putty, but good news about the frags!

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
How you plan on doing the frags. Most people will be at the BB collection trip next weekend.

Steve

[thedude]

Thought about that, as I'll be driving down Saturday to attend as well. If ya'll want, I could bring the frags with me I guess (I do not recommend this) or we could find someone with a large tank willing to look after them until everyone can pick them up (*looks in Clint and Robert's direction).

[hammondegge]

that might scare the crap out of me. i just moved tanks about a couple of weeks ago, but the system is stable (all mature water and rock and sand) with all params in place sooo i could do it if you need me to.
let me know if you need it. thanks for all the hard work john.
robert

[gcantu]

John,
Will you be driving through SA?? If so, can you bring mine down with you? I live a bit off IH35 near 1604 and can meet you as you drive into town.
Thanks,
George

[thedude]

Yeah let me figure out what route I'm taking and I'll get back to you.

[gcantu]

Thanks

[jroescher]

If I have enough advance notice, I can find a need to drive to Austin on Friday and get mine from you then. Just as long as it's in the early afternoon.

Driving to Port A for a frag is just little bit out of the way for me.

[thedude]

Ok so here's the deal, when I receive the frags in Austin I will put them in either Hammondegge's or Fishypet's tank to hold them. These are two awesome tanks and the frags should be able to recover nicely.

I am driving down to Port A Saturday but right now yahoo has me going around San Antonio... for you guys in SA that have driven to Port A before, what's the fastest way?

[gcantu]

Well from SA, I usually drive I35 south to 37 south towards Corpus and then from there follow the signs to Port A. If you drive I35 south you should see the 37 south exit a couple of miles after you pass Splashtown. From SA to Corpus, it is around a 1.5 to 2 hour drive.

Yahoo may have you driving through loop 1604 to 37 south. That can also be done without having to drive through SA. The only drawback to that route is that there are stop lights along the way, it's not a straight shot out and can take longer depending on traffic.

[thedude]

False alarm guys, the business partner in Chi-town couldn't get the frags out this weekend. He's apparently the manager of a retail store and just didn't have time. I expect them within the next week and will keep everyone posted. I will find a tank locally to house the frags when they come in so no one needs to be in a huge rush.

John

[thedude]

Great news! 20 free frags came in today and they're in hammondegges coloring up and healing.

[gcantu]

So how soon can I schedule to pick them up?

[BIGBIRD123]

John,
So how are we gonna divide these up? Oh and by the way John, Glad to see you at the collection trip.

Steve

[hammondegge]

So how soon can I schedule to pick them up?

when they are large enough to frag. moooah hahaha :angel


So how are we gonna divide these up?

they arrived unlabeled so we dont know what they are yet. all are a little brown but look healthy so. john thought we should wait for them to color up a little, try to identify them, and see how many make it before dividing them up. they went into the tank late in the day yesterday and lights are not on yet today. i will try to get a picture a little later.

[hammondegge]

here are some pics for your identifying pleasure. for those who want to play they will be numbered left to right and front to back 1-20. ie first row left (1) second row left (2) third row left(3) first row second from the left (4). if anyone has photoshop skills and wants to drop the numbers in.....
they all appear to be doing well except 14 looks pretty skeletal. no rtn but a few very thin skinned frags.
lmk if you want a close up of any frag in particular and i will do my best to get a good one.

full shot
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/sbfull.jpg
left side
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/SBleft.jpg
left side again
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/SBleftback.jpg
right side
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/SBright.jpg
right side again
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/SBright.jpg

[thedude]

Before I go about dividing the frags up, we really need to let them settle and regain strength. They've traveled from Chicago to Austin, been acclimated into a new tank, and they need time. Once we start to see some color and PE we can begin to try to identify and divy them up.

If Robert doesn't mind, I'd love to give them a week or two to recuperate.

[hammondegge]

i dont mind

[fishypets]

Those frags look freaking sweet!

[hammondegge]

i found a little extra time soooo...

one
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/one.jpg
two
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/two.jpg
three
this one has light blue tips
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/three.jpg
four
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/four.jpg
five
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/five.jpg
six
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/six.jpg
seven
green polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/seven.jpg
eight
lime green polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/eight.jpg
nine
this one is developing a pale violet color with complex polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/nine.jpg
ten
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/ten.jpg

[hammondegge]

eleven
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/eleven.jpg
twelve
this one is looking like a tri-color
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/twelve.jpg
thirteen
polyps look to be light yellow or green
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/thirteen.jpg
fourteen
only a few polyps showing but they are a pale blue
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/fourteen.jpg
fifteen
getting pretty hairy, pale polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/fifteen.jpg
sixteen
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/sixteen.jpg
seventeen
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/seventeen.jpg
eighteen
best pe of the bunch, large pale polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/eighteen.jpg
nineteen
very small and delicate bright yellow polyps
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/nineteen.jpg
twenty
almost no visible polyps, very healthy though, jade colored tip
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j60/hammondegge/twenty.jpg

[jroescher]

I wish my camera skills were half that good.

If we can stake a claim, I'd like 10 or 11.

[thedude]

I actually knew you were a monti guy so planned on getting you on. Ten is actually an oxypora but we'll work it our so you get some monti!

[hammondegge]

10. oxypora

anymore?

[BIGBIRD123]

I say we wrestle for 'em...LOL!

Steve

[hammondegge]

I say we wrestle for 'em...LOL!

Steve

only if it is my team against you ;)

[BIGBIRD123]

Others might not like you getting 'em in on that! Remember there is no "I" in team.

[hammondegge]

yeh, no one has volunteered yet.

[BIGBIRD123]

Now is when you find out who your true friends are....LMAO!

Would it help if I said "I was just a teddy bear"?

[thedude]

These frags are ready to be picked up from Robert whenever. Please get with him about making arrangements to pick them up.

Each person will be receiving one Tier 1 frag and one Tier 2 frag. Robert and I have already divided them up so all you have to do is pick up your free corals!