too good to be true?

[don-n-sa]

ok...all of these medications are supposed to be fish, invert, coral, and anemone safe to use. they have a diffferent med for just about every disease out there.

other than price, what gives?

BTW they are a RC sponsor

http://www.nosickfish.com/products.jsp

[Tim Marvin]

It may not be a different med. They just label the bottle for the disease. Interesting concept.

[don-n-sa]

I know that testimonials might not be real but if these are....wow


I have a 300 gal. reef tank and was fighting Ich on my regal tang for months/years. In the hospital tank and out, back and forth enough to drive me out of my mind. I just hated my tank! I got your product 13 weeks ago and in one day it was gone, but it slowly came back, so I ordered more and I retreated the tank when this happened. I have been Ich free since! This is the first time my tank has been free of ICH since I got my fish. Needless to say I am amazed and my live reef looks better than it ever had.

Next my friend had a fish with a small ulcer, he said it was going to die, so I told him about your website. In one week after the treatment was done, the ulcer was gone. You made me look good! Thanks! --Leslie



I have been fighting all the fish issues for years, I was ready to throw the towel in! Sick fish, hospital tanks, catching fish, treating fish, dead fish............ I stopped at one of your test sites 9 months ago and they made arrangements to get me some of your medication. WOW! I could not believe my eyes, after one week of treatment in a tank with 3 different diseases, not to mention problems in several other tanks. Gone! Amazing! I had a pile of old medicines and threw them out after I restocked with your complete line up!
I could write a book on what you have saved me, not just money, but time, peace and mind.

Thank you!
Dennis



After many attempts to save my tank from flukes, I finally found something that truly works. No Sick Fish’s fluke solution was very fast, but more importantly it worked. The quality of their product is incomparable to anything that I have ever used. I loved being able to treat my entire aquarium, and not have to worry about harming my reef or invertebrates. – Andy Ryan



No Sick Fish helped me out tremendously. I was having many problems with external bacteria. With in 2 days my tank was clean. It was very simple to use. I didn’t have to change my aquarium set up. Best thing that I have used on my tank in years. There medication is worth its weight in gold. –Dominic Frese



The solution is reef safe. That feature alone saved my tang. In the past I would have had to quarantine the sick fish. More than likely it would have died just from the move. No Sick Fish saved my entire tank from fungus. Not only did it treat my sick tangs, but it also treated and prevented the rest of my tank from a possible break out. Customer for life. -Billy



I live in California and I have a 700 gallon Koi pond. Two of my fancy Koi started to get fin rot. I was (They were) lucky that I discovered No Sick Fish. The shipping of the correct medication was fast and they also showed compassion for my problem. I thank them and would recommend not only their products but also their personal touch.

Thanks again,

A very satisfied customer

Toni from California



I have a 55gal. heavily-planted freshwater tank. I noticed that my fish had ICH, a few days after adding some new plants. I was frantic! Every thing that I read, said to transfer your fish to another tank for treatment, if you don't want to run the risk of killing your plants. The thought of having to catch all of the occupants (adding stress to them) and shredding my plants to pieces trying to find them, let alone catch them, made me SICK!

Then I happened to find the "NO SICK FISH" website! It was almost too good to be true! So I verified the information by emailing them, & they said there was no need to move anyone & it was completely safe for my plants. So I ordered their treatment for "ICH". Just 2 drops in the morning & 2 drops in the evening for 1 week. THAT"S IT! SO SIMPLE! My Ich problem is gone! My fish are healthy & happy. I'm very Happy! I recommend their product to anyone! Oh, by the way if you have any questions, their customer service is excellent!

Sincerely,
Priscilla Igou from Pennsylvania

[don-n-sa]

how about we all do our part and buy a bottle of all the common ones and we share with eachother when in need????

[Tim Marvin]

Talking about feedback check this one out for a good scam. Magnets in a tube....LOL.... I tried it and so did Richard, in fact I think Richard may still have his laying around some place. I got a refund. Surprisingly they refunded no questions asked and promptly... They do have good business practices, even if I don't beleive in magnets.
http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/aquarium.htm

[GaryP]

Magnetic water treatment is not something new. It re-appears in a new form every few years. I had a guy that wanted me to test them for oilfield water treatment over 20 years ago.

I told him I would start the test right after I got the last guy's pyramid moved from the oil well it was being tested at. J/K.

[jaded]

hey, that pyramid would have worked if it had crystals on it! Not just any crystal... its has to be specials crystals and I just happen to have some for sale. They are on the shelf right next to the magnetic mattress pad and zango juice

what will they think of next

[GaryP]

Seriously though, someone needs to get Richard to jump in here. He's the best disease guy I know. Since he treats and quarantines several hundred fish every year he has more experience than any hobbyist is capable of.

My guess is that this company may have simply collected the best of several products offered by several companies under one label.

[don-n-sa]

yeah, maybe we can get some opinions/comments on the question that I had for this thread... ;)

[Richard]

Don, I can't say much. I think you said it all..."Too good to be true".

Just for fun let's SEE (http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=5428816#post5428816) what happens.

[jaded]

without more details on whats in the products and good ole fashion hands on trial and error I can't help at all with your questions. Anybody got $50 I'm sure we can find some sick fish to treat... I got a yellow tang with black spot

[Richard]

For $50 you can get a used setup to use as a QT tank out of the news paper. FW dips are cheap, Hyposalinity is cheap, Copper is cheap.

[Polkster13]

Richard, I think they are playing on the laziness factor. I can hear the customer whining right now about it is too much work to setup a hospital tank, catch the fish, QT the fish, treat the fish, reacclimate the fish and so forth. With their product, just a couple of drops twice a day in your main tank and bingo the fish are healthy and the corals are vibrant! No fuss, no muss! :roll

Fish get sick because of stress (improper environment, improper diet or improper handling)! Reduce the stress and provide for the fish's needs and they will thrive. To know if your fish or coral are thriving, they should be reproducing or attempting to reproduce. If they aren't, then they are only surviving!

[don-n-sa]

Actually Polkster you may be right in some cases with the general public but we are MAASTARDS remember. You can be the best fishkeeper in the world and things will still happen. Fish will fight, fish will get sick from time to time, and definitley fish will die. One thing that MOST of us here on MAAST have in common is that we are not LAZY...I have a hospital tank ready to go at all times but catching a fish from an established system not only can be difficult but stresses everyone out including the fishkeeper.

Example...during a feeding a fish brushes against liverock and comes down with cloudy eye. It would be great to be able to treat the fish without removing him/her which could possibly lead to worse things.

The title says "too good to be true" in which it probably is but maybe....

[Polkster13]

Oh trust me when I say, it is very difficult removing a fish from an established reef when it gets sick. Especially mine since they have both sides of the tank to hide in. And it is very true that MOST of the people on MAAST do care a great deal about their charges and want the best for their pets. However, I still think that in most cases, medicine is over used when it can be avoided in most cases. It also depends on if you have a fish only tank or a reef. If you have a fish only tank with little decorations, then it would be best to try and move the fish to a QT and medicate, especially if you have a lot of other fish that the disease could spread to. If you have a reef, you have little chance of capturing the fish. However, if you get acro red mites in your reef, I can see that this is a true need for medication. However, things like pop-eye and ich will usually go away with the need for medication IF the fish is not being stressed (by poor water quality, too small an enclosure, poor diet, being bullied by an aggressive tank mate and so forth) and they will recover. I have seen it happened too many times in my tanks in the 28+ years I have been keeping fish.

All I am trying to say is that there are times when medication is needed and there are other tims when it is misused. If you have a sick fish, you need to find out why it got sick in the first place and fix that and only medicate as a last resort. I truely believe people medicate their tanks way too often without knowing what they are doing. For instance, they remove any carbon from their filters before medicating? If not, most of the medicines will be absorbed by the carbon. Does the medication have copper in it? If so, they may end up killing all of their snails, pods and so forth.

There are times when you just need to leave the fish alone, remove any stress factors (including turning out the lights), feed a well balanced diet (including using garlic when applicable) and let nature take its course.

There are no absolutes when it comes to keeping fish. However, I would be skeptical of anything that doesn't list the active ingredients or it says it is a cure-all. If someone wants to try it out from our club, I would say go for it and let us know your experience. But even then, what works for you may not work in my system as there are too many variables to account for to truely know if the medicine made any difference or not.

[don-n-sa]

all great points...since you have been keeping fish for so long then you have seen the changes that has happened in the hobby over the years. Fish and corals that were once though impossible to keep are thriving. Why? Because we are all continuing to push the envelope and trying new things and improving techniques that we use. Too many times we just assume that new products are "snake oil" before we give them a chance. Now having said all of that, this particular line of products probably won't work but I would think that it would be worth a try...maybe one of us could set up a small reef tank and give these a try, because I don't think any of us would want to be the guinie pig.... :)

[Richard]

Perhaps I'm being too skeptical. My business partner just completed the labeling on our new product. I'm sure it will be viewed with the same skepticism....

[don-n-sa]

too funny Richard....hey do you guys need a partner???? :skeezy

[Richard]

too funny Richard....hey do you guys need a partner????


Sure, we'll supply the DI water and you supply the food coloring. But keep it quiet until we sell a couple of ounces ;)

Seriously, I'm pretty open minded about new products (heck, I really do still have an ecoaqualizer lying around somewhere) but I think this one is too blatant. I hope no one falls for it.

[Louis]

Too funny, I'll do the logo design and promotional material for your new product!

[brewercm]

I hope no one falls for it

Just keep an eye on RC, someone will. Probably one of them norheasterners that are so much more educated and brilliant than us dolts in the south. :lol