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[darkenergy]

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[Brett Wilson]

This doesnt seem that it belongs in the for sale section to me....

[RobertG]

Josh can move this for us. :confused:

[darkenergy]

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[Brett Wilson]

RIO's have a long standing history of being crap ;)
I've seen a few that had serious issues....

You could have a complete forum dedicated to items to stay away from... hmm maybe we should... but I argue that it doesnt belong in here.

[darkenergy]

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[Dozer]

Someone call Tim Marvin, I think we finally found something we really can all agree on!

(I hope that's taken the way it was meant, just my lame attempt at humor :-) ).

Now carry on bashing Rio pumps...

[wkopplin]

If you want a shocking experience, they rule.

[don-n-sa]

you get what you pay for!

[Reef69]

yep..rio..sucks..like the power sweep ..suck too

[don-n-sa]

power sweeps? I thought that they were called power stuck...hmm lol!

[Tim Marvin]

POwersweeps just stop moving not working. They actually start up quiet on a wavemaker. Rio's on the other hand, don't get me started. I had one die after a couple hours, and another one die after a couple days.... Now I do have one left in use on a tiny pond that has work straight for a couple years to my amazement.

[mkengr45]

I have had a RIO 2100 working flawless for almost 4 years. I hear a lot of crap talk about them, and i'm sure that many have had bad experiences with them but mine has never failed. I probably will go with a mag pump or an iwaki for my next pump since everyone seems so in love with them. Maybe the Rio pumps have taken a turn for the worse within the last few years, but the one I have is still going strong.

[clowntrigger]

I have had poor experiences with the Rio pumps too. I regularly suggest the Mag Drive pumps over the Rios. Do any of you have any experience with the new Rio pumps, the Rio Hyperflow?

[NaCl_H2O]

Rio's are "OK" esp. for an entry/budget pump. I had a 3100 that lasted for years, granted I could tell when it started (Chatter), it did the job. Then one day it just crapped out (shorted) and I replaced it with an EHEIM which I like much better. Bought several MAGs for my new setup, and a big Panworld/Blueline, but no experience with these in operation yet.

[GaryP]

I'm in the process of replacing all my Rios. I had 6 going at one time. They do get stuck but are easy to clean with some vinegar. They have a tendency to scale up in a reef tank. They do OK in a FO tank. The trick is figuring out they are stuck before they burn themselves up. All i need is a couple of pumps to run my skimmers and I will be Rio free.

Tim, I think the the reason they do OK in your pond is that they are not running at a high calcium and Alk. concentration and thus do not scale up.

Gary