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pfcreed
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 08:03 AM
does anyone have a sumpless tank. Im talking no filtration besides live rock

TPinner@saltyfishaquariums
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 08:54 AM
A lot of the nano guys and gals are running his or her tanks with no sump and only a simple pad to catch waste. I realize that is still a little bit of filtration, but very minimal. Might want to see if any of them have some input.

Trrry




does anyone have a sumpless tank. Im talking no filtration besides live rock

profntbtr
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 09:38 AM
i have run a number of tiny tanks with no filtration whatsoever, just a tiny powerhead. I have had a 2.5 gallon reef, a 3/4 gallon mantis tank, and a 1 gallon reef, and a couple more that i can't recall. While these were all sumpless, by far and away the nicest sumpless tank i've seen was ace(hobogato)'s 240 gallon. look for his threads. it was truly amazing, with no filter, just a circulation pump and a couple powerheads, lit by natural sunlight. He very recently sold it off and got out of the hobby, but yes it can be done and quite successfully in the long term.

Zen Reef
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 10:51 AM
While it can be done, it important to note that the upkeep is likely more involved. It sounds great to just throw some flow in there, light it and be done with it but there's a trade off. I believe Ace was doing several small water changes a week, kept a dsb as well kept a large amount of macro/filter feeders in the tank to help with nutrient export. As long as you're able to keep up with the more demanding husbandry and revolve more of your stocking choices to nutrient export, it can be successful long term.

pfcreed
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 11:41 AM
I was thinking about doing it on a 40 gal breeder. with only zoas, shrooms, gsp, xenia and stuff like that. Im not even into the fish that much I got 6 small fish in a 90 gall, 2 clowns, 2 mandarins, an eel and a no good little damsel. Im worried about how to manage evaporation, and maintaining my alk, and ca and what not.

MARKIS210
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 01:01 PM
With the amount of water changes your going to be doing, I don't think you will need to worry about alk/ca

Zephyr Aquatics
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 01:11 PM
While it can be done, it important to note that the upkeep is likely more involved. It sounds great to just throw some flow in there, light it and be done with it but there's a trade off. I believe Ace was doing several small water changes a week, kept a dsb as well kept a large amount of macro/filter feeders in the tank to help with nutrient export. As long as you're able to keep up with the more demanding husbandry and revolve more of your stocking choices to nutrient export, it can be successful long term.

I agree with everything said by psyko. I have personally had allot of success with just a hob filter with filter pads and plenty of live rock.Keep your bio load reasonable and keep on top of your maintenance and you should be okay. Another thing to consider is possibly a hob fuge. You can hide your heater in there and have a place for macros that aren't in tank.

ClamFan
Thu, 19th Dec 2013, 03:06 PM
I currently have a 20g tall with a maxijet 12 closed loop, koralia nano and koralia 425 gph circ. pumps and rock as filtration. Only one fish in there with some gsp, toadstool, war coral, purple chalice, hammer, and small piece of birdsnest. There is a small aqueon power filter on there but its only for added circulation and so I can run carbon if my test results come out bad. I do 5 gal weekly water changes. In January I will be upgrading to a 40g breeder without the power filter and adding a hob skimmer. I will be doing the same 5 gal water changes every week.