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excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:28 PM
So my hippo and yellow tang have ick.. They are both in my qt tank.. I have a heater and small filter on the back and nano power head.. Any inputs on copper..(seachem cupramine). I'm using marine C and feeding nori alone with brine shrimp adding garlic guard to food.. So question is does anyone use copper to kill ick?http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t541/Excal85/F009EDFD-E77B-4DF8-9AEB-F94D94C0F9DA_zpsquz4tzvl.jpg (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Excal85/media/F009EDFD-E77B-4DF8-9AEB-F94D94C0F9DA_zpsquz4tzvl.jpg.html)

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:30 PM
IMHO I wouldn't use copper on tangs. My regal had ick I gave her 2 fresh water dips and used metronizoale and focus and she hasn't had ick since

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:41 PM
Pet store told me to use I want to get input before I use or maybe go a different route.. I was thinking hypo...

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:41 PM
Yea I used hypo with the meds garlic and fresh water dips

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:45 PM
Okay I'll save money and use that... Hypo 1.016?

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:46 PM
Yea, cause any lower the tangs won't eat

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 08:52 PM
Okay

jrossjr79
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:38 PM
From what I heard hypo is not that great of a solution, most livestock cant live in a salinity level where the ich will die off, which is well below 1.009.

Again, I may be wrong, I am no expert, but this is what I have heard.

I do the freshwater dips (which I need to learn how to do), metronizoale, and boosting immune with garlic.

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:42 PM
From what I heard hypo is not that great of a solution, most livestock cant live in a salinity level where the ich will die off, which is well below 1.009.

Again, I may be wrong, I am no expert, but this is what I have heard.

I do the freshwater dips (which I need to learn how to do), metronizoale, and boosting immune with garlic.

Fresh wTer dips are super easy have about 5 gal RO heated to same as tank water and place your fish in bucket he might just lay there and freak you out like he is dying or he may swim around and release his bowls which is better if he releases his bowls time it 5-7 min and monitor closely for stress if the fish seems really stressed remove and place back in the QT the fresh water dip will clear out his gills of the ich making breathing easier for the fish

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:45 PM
So fresh water dip keep away from hypo and anything on copper

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:46 PM
I would use salinity 1.016 and fresh water dip STAY AWAY from COPPER
But you have to take the time to properly acclimate to the lower salinity

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:51 PM
I have done it before but it's a pain to bring it back up at a slow rate

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:52 PM
Yea but the fish's life is more important than the time it takes to bring salinity up or down IMHO

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:57 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/vy3agemy.jpgwhen I got her
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/7uvyvery.jpgafter approx 3 months in QT meds hypo and fresh water dips
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/16/y3uvejat.jpgtoday:)

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 09:59 PM
Sorry the today pic is so bright the brat was hiding from the camera

excal
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 10:30 PM
Southern flame how is ur qt set up..?

Southern Flame
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 10:32 PM
Bare I bought a tank from Walmart and heater didn't use carbon filters either just water changed a lot to make sure the water was pristine but I did use the Hob filter it came with and I bought a 4inch elbow (PVC ) and sterilized the tank elbow and hob once a week

jrossjr79
Sun, 15th Dec 2013, 10:44 PM
Fresh wTer dips are super easy have about 5 gal RO heated to same as tank water and place your fish in bucket he might just lay there and freak you out like he is dying or he may swim around and release his bowls which is better if he releases his bowls time it 5-7 min and monitor closely for stress if the fish seems really stressed remove and place back in the QT the fresh water dip will clear out his gills of the ich making breathing easier for the fish

Thank you for the How To on FW dipping. Will help out here soon.


So fresh water dip keep away from hypo and anything on copper

Dont listen to me to much on the hypo, I personally wont do one, everyone is different. I suggest do your research on it and figure if it is a good suggestion or not. But yes, stay away from Copper. Once something is contaminated with copper, even if a QT tank, it stays that way, and hard to get out. Copper kills inverts and corals.

excal
Mon, 16th Dec 2013, 09:54 PM
Well the hippo and yellow tang are doing better and swimming around more... Glad to say they are eating like champs.. I will keep everyone updated.. http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t541/Excal85/BC0EDD4F-1DB7-4808-B17E-DB895C1868CE_zpsuivgohgn.jpg (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Excal85/media/BC0EDD4F-1DB7-4808-B17E-DB895C1868CE_zpsuivgohgn.jpg.html)

aceer15
Fri, 10th Jan 2014, 02:04 AM
Also raise the temps in your WT about 4 degrees; this will kick up their metabolism and help then eat more and fight off the ick quicker


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