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Scuba Sam
Mon, 28th Oct 2013, 06:55 PM
Hello everyone, over the last month I have been battling a Nitrate problem and read up on Nitrate Phosphate remover from Red Sea Pro. It is basically the same concept of vodka dosing a tank from what I understand. Either way i was half asleep and read the instructions incorrectly and instead of adding 1 ml per every 25 gallons I added 100 ml per every 25 gallons! I immediately did the largest water change my set up allows for which is 44 gallons. I have a 150 reef ready tank with a 40 gallon refugium. I have done a 44 gallon water change every 2 days so I have done three water changes. I also changed out the charcoal in the tank. I read up on this concept and the largest concern was the algea bloom that would happen crashing the oxygen. The next day the tank looked like milk but I already had my power heads rippling the surface water to help increase the air production. All the fish have been fine and remain fine to this day. The corals are a different story. The zoas were all closed for several days and are just now opening up as of today. My soft corals are the most impacted, xenia trees, mushrooms, and gsp are all closed and just today the gsp are peaking out. So everything seems to be on the mend and the water is clearing more and more every day. The nitrates were at 50 ppm and now nitrate / ammonia / and nitrite are all gone completely. I have not tested the tank tonight but I will this test was done on saturday.

My main reason for posting this is a new observation I made today. The tank is starting to have a smell too it, not necessarily a foul smell but it smells salty. In all 6 months the tank has been up I have not smelled it after it was set up the first time. The skimmer is also kicking out a crazy amount of thick foam and is overflowing every day from foam. The last observation is that the three filter socks have clogged up ever day but have not been turning brown inside like the used to do in the past when they would clog from fish poop every few weeks.

Everything seems to be improving but im concerned about the skimmer / smell / and socks as this is all recent. Does anyone have any tips or advice or experience with a problem like this? As the water is still cloudy I thought about buying some beneficial bacteria and adding it to the tank after another water change tonight. Please let me know and if it would be easier to talk on phone about it send me a message and ill send you my number. THanks yall!

CoryDude
Mon, 28th Oct 2013, 09:34 PM
I would take the wait and see approach before any more drastic measures. The main concern would be the oxygen levels from the sudden increase in aerobic bacteria. You seem to be addressing that issue perfectly. I'd keep running your skimmer and make sure you clean it every few days since it's going to pull out some nasty crud for a while.

The salty smell is from the 132 gallons of salt water you just changed out. I also wouldn't added any bacteria cultures to the tank. You've got enough going on at the microbial level without adding more. In fact your water is most likely milky looking because of a bacterial bloom.

Just make sure you keep your oxygen levels up and keep your skimmer running.

Scutterborn
Mon, 28th Oct 2013, 09:38 PM
The over production of skimmate tells me that you've got an abundance of DOC. Similar to a bio pellet reactor. With a bp reactor, another form of carbon dosing, you'll need a bigger skimmer to handle this form of nutrient removal. The smell is also indicative of a lot of nutrient breakdown requiring removal.


-Ben-

Scuba Sam
Mon, 28th Oct 2013, 11:14 PM
Did one more water change tonight and I'm going to let it sit for a few days and see what happens. I've noticed that all the corals really like the blue lights after this crash. My guess is that it's not the blues but it's less light they are happy with. Still no deaths in the tank except one gorgonian. A hawkfish is missing for a day or two but I have not found a body and there is 0 ammonia and 0 nitrate in the tank. Confirmed by testing tonight. Thanks for the tips everyone. Anemone looks like trash as well watching him close as i understand if he dies that can crash the tank quickly as well.

FireWater
Tue, 29th Oct 2013, 07:14 AM
Cory and Ben have some good info. I agree with their assessment as well, for what it's worth.

Scuba Sam
Tue, 29th Oct 2013, 10:53 AM
woke up this morning and the water was more clear and the gsp finally opened. I wasn't as worried about loosing gsp as i was using them as an indicator of the health of the water / tank. I also turned the lights down someone seemed to think that the corals are stressed and dont like the high light while they are stressed like this. Any thoughts?

Bill S
Tue, 29th Oct 2013, 12:01 PM
I too like the low light idea.

FireWater
Tue, 29th Oct 2013, 12:15 PM
I would leave the lower lighting the way you have it. Just keep an eye on things and adjust as necessary. With cloudy water the effectiveness of the light is diminished.

Sounds like you had a bacterial bloom. It may take a while to fully diminish. I've had one before that you couldn't see into the tank more than a couple inches. Lasted for about 3 days then cleared up.

Scuba Sam
Wed, 30th Oct 2013, 12:03 PM
There certainly was a big bloom of bacteria. Water is almost back to 85% clarity. One zoa colony is still upset and i lost both gorgonians i had. Everything else is open and getting back to normal. I think the worst part may be past me. Nitrates still 0 / Ammonia still 0. Im going to let the tank go with this water for a week see how it works out.

The glass does have a white algea like substance on it that im scraping off daily. Thanks for all the tips and advice everyone.