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klwheat
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 10:56 AM
Well, as it says, my 210 crashed completely while I was out of town. Not sure exactly what happened, my 20 yr old daughter was at home, and we had a fish-knowledgable friend tank-sitting for us. When she started noticing things "not right", about a week ago, I had her check all parameters that I could test for, but with no useful results. (noted below). The tanks inhabitants included a VERY large stars & stripes puffer, 6" sailfin tang, 6" magnificent foxface, 5" harlequin tusk, dragon goby, diamond goby, 3" tomato clown, 1 large pink tuxedo urchin and and a long tentacle anemone.
First indication of badness was a dead dragon goby, missing anemone, and tomato clown that looked "dusty". This was about a week ago. When tested, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrates 20-40 (after the first death and missing anemone), sg 1.023, calcium 400. Never noted any "cloudy" water appearance or abnormal odors. During the few days that followed, the harlequin started acting "funny" and the puffer, foxface, sailfin looked like their eyes were "cloudy". The puffer also started "jumping" into the overflow box! (had to be rescued twice!) (I wasn't home...so I didn't actually see them). The day I arrived back home (tuesday), the tomato clown died and the sailfin disappeared. I arrived home that night and started saltwater mixing. The following morning the puffer, harlequin and foxface were still alive...but looking VERY poorly - cloudy eyes, dusty, swimming abnormally. Did 65 gallon water change (most I could mix at a time) and started more mixing. By the following morning, foxface, harlequin and puffer were all dead. Only survivors in this tank were the small diamond goby and urchin.
I'm not sure what happened here...and I welcome any help. The only thing I can really guess is that the anemone managed to get shredded somehow in a powerhead (though all are covered, and the vortech I have has the foam cover on it too). I've always read that this is associated with a cloudy appearance in the tank and obnoxious odor...but that never happened according to my daughter. We also thought that it could have been something from the topoff water. However, I double checked the rodi when I got home (still measuring 2ppm tds - needs di resin i guess) and the 90 gallon reef tank uses the same topoff water reservior...and NONE of the corals, anemone or fish in that tank had issues...so I pretty much ruled that out.
So now the tank sits after large water change and new carbon with 2 small creatures very lonely.
I'm not even sure where to go from here with this tank. It was kinda centered around the large puffer before.
Anyone have any ideas?

allan
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 11:05 AM
That sucks, Larry.

I hate losing fish. Although poor consolation, at least you didn't lose any of your coral. I couldn't even begin to guess what could have happened to take out your fish like that, except the missing nem or perhaps some kind of parasite?

FireWater
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 11:16 AM
Just guessing but I would say the nem may have caused the issues. Maybe Ace will chime in soon and describe his incident when the anemone went through the power head.

hobogato
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 11:43 AM
Sounds like it was the anemone. Sorry for your losses, I've been there.

klwheat
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 11:56 AM
Has anyone had an experience like this with anemone without having cloudy, foul-smelling water result? The water looked and smelled just fine when I got home...that's the biggest reason i'm not sure about it.

Bill S
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 12:00 PM
I've lost anemones in an 8 gallon nano, and not lost the fish.

It could be something else? Was there a party at your house while you were gone?

klwheat
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 12:05 PM
Definitely no party...lol. My daughter is WAY too against crowds or strangers of any kind. The only other person over was the gal helping take care of the tank...every other day.

Zack
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 12:06 PM
I've lost anemones in an 8 gallon nano, and not lost the fish.

It could be something else? Was there a party at your house while you were gone?

I would say this would be the exception, not the norm though, I've had nem's wreck my tanks after dying.

Mike
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 12:17 PM
Anemone was my first thought also, since it had disappeared. Sucks and we have totally been there. We did massive amounts of water changes and never found out the cause for sure (wasn't an anemone). Makes you feel helpless.

Any pest control done or maybe some sort of cleaning product accidentally introduced to the tank?

Sorry for your loss. Hang in there :(

reefreak
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 12:22 PM
I've had an anemone and same thing happend to me, water wasn't couldn't just the fish were acting really weird and I seen some of the anemone in the power head. Very sorry to hear

hobogato
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 01:27 PM
yes, like jeremy said, the anemone could take out all of the fish by going thru the powerhead while healthy. i had a ritteri do it to my 240 many years ago. within an hour, all fish were dead except two. maybe it took longer since the long tentacle doesn't have as powerful sting? could also be something else that happened in or around the tank. have you checked for stray voltage?

Bill S
Fri, 18th Oct 2013, 01:53 PM
Yeah, powerhead is different than dying. All those floating stingers.

klwheat
Sun, 20th Oct 2013, 11:16 AM
that's pretty much what I've decided too. Now, I just have to figure out what I want to do with tank now. How long should I wait before adding my first new fish?

Scutterborn
Sun, 20th Oct 2013, 11:39 AM
I'd run carbon for a few weeks and keep an eye on everything. Bump your water changes up a little to speed the timeline.


- Ben -

mkengr45
Sun, 20th Oct 2013, 07:27 PM
Check for stray voltage.

klwheat
Mon, 21st Oct 2013, 01:14 PM
Check for stray voltage.
How would I do this?
I'm pretty certain no chemicals entered, because we were gone...and there's no way my oldest daughter was cleaning in there while we were away! Lol

FireWater
Mon, 21st Oct 2013, 01:51 PM
Do you have a volt meter? What you want to do is see if the water is carrying an electrical current.

FireWater
Mon, 21st Oct 2013, 01:52 PM
Sometimes heaters or pumps/power heads will become faulty and leak current into the tank.

paul
Fri, 29th Nov 2013, 11:14 PM
I've had that happen before. A few years ago when I started I was noticing my fish swim fast and acting like they were on coffee. Didn't know why but for some reason I stuck my hand in tank to get a their attention. I thought they would stop. Well when I stuck my hand in I felt stinging or tingling on my fingertips. After dipping my hand in and out to figure out why my finger tips were tingling it clicked in my head to kill the power. The tingling stopped. Turns out my heater was at fault. Crazy.

jrsatx20
Sat, 30th Nov 2013, 12:02 AM
Like paul said stick your hand in tank and dont wear shoes. Ive done it and im still here.

ramsey
Sat, 30th Nov 2013, 12:24 AM
I've done it too. I stuck my hand in my 12g and got a bit of a shock. It was a faulty heater and explained why my zoas and mushrooms had been closed up and mad for a couple of days.