Diy shark lagoon?

[eric1283]

I want to make a shark lagoon for black banded bamboo sharks and was wondering how would be the best way to go about it? I want to try to do an outdoor lagoon covered by an a roof to block the sun light out would it be possible to do an out door lagoon? I live in south Texas so we really don't have a winter here so a good heater will keep it warm in winter but I don't know how much of a problem the evaporation will be since it would be covered it won't get any sun light. Also would it he better to get a small pool or build one and use pond liner to water proof it? Still planning so I have a lot of questions. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

[jrossjr79]

This may be of same help, take notice of where it says sharks as pets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownbanded_bamboo_shark

Personally i would just build one, and to make sure it has plenty of sand.

[Big_Pun]

why not just get a nice size tank and dedicate it to just the shark?

[allan]

12 hours out of water... Talk about hardy. 41" is quite big, the article suggests a 180 gallon tank, seems like you would want something far larger.

Also, it's not diurnal, which I would consider a major hang up, since interaction would be at night.

Now the fun stuff. I think it would be awesome to set up an out door large scale set up. I've toyed with the idea with a few other maasties, but it would get very expensive. Very expensive.

What would be your end game? What eventual goal do you hope to accomplish?


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[eric1283]

I just want a basic lagoon some rock work in the center and maybe hold a couple of cat sharks and a couple of rays but the only thing that concerns me is it gets really hot here so even though it would be completely covered I don't know if I could control the temp

[jrossjr79]

12 hours out of water... Talk about hardy. 41" is quite big, the article suggests a 180 gallon tank, seems like you would want something far larger.

Also, it's not diurnal, which I would consider a major hang up, since interaction would be at night.

Now the fun stuff. I think it would be awesome to set up an out door large scale set up. I've toyed with the idea with a few other maasties, but it would get very expensive. Very expensive.

What would be your end game? What eventual goal do you hope to accomplish?


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Actually, that is really all the require, at least from various different sources I looked at, however, I must agree with you that it does seem like a fish that size would need more room than only 180G.


But back to the OP, as far as cooling the lagoon, I went looking online for you, decided to look for it under swimming pools though, and this thread may give you some pointers on keeping the temperature down. I am not sure how cost effective any of it is. And I am not even sure if having a water fountain in a salt water environment is the way to go either.

http://www.troublefreepool.com/pool-too-hot-t37810.html

But I would still think you may need a heater during the winter as well.

[eric1283]

Yeah a heater won't be too much of a problem because most of the winter here stays around 70's to 80's it gets lower but not often and not for very long.

[kkiel02]

Ian tinkering with a plan on making a lagoon for my next house. I've looked into it some and alot of bigger setups more cost effective setups use geothermal tubing to help bring the cost down some. I haven't tried it yet so this isn't first hand experience but just some stuff I've read. I will still be purchasing a large chiller(or two) and some nice heaters. I am shooting for more of a swimming pool type lagoon though like what they have at sea world aquatica.

[jrossjr79]

There is also this thread to look at, it is here on this forum, so you might want to talk with him as well. His setup took awhile, but looked good when he was done, and continues to thrive. However, again, its not saltwater, even though alot of the members here have tried to convince him to turn it into a saltwater.

http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?62510-Swimming-Pool-to-Pond-Conversion

[Big_Pun]

lets see who pulls the trigger first on this build! one big undertaking .

[eric1283]

I've always wanted a small outdoor lagoon but now I figure if I'm going to do it might as well make it big so I can have a couple of sharks. Just a quick question how fast do black banded cat sharks grow I heard about 12 inches a year.

[Big_Pun]

I've always wanted a small outdoor lagoon but now I figure if I'm going to do it might as well make it big so I can have a couple of sharks. Just a quick question how fast do black banded cat sharks grow I heard about 12 inches a year.

sweet good luck

[Fenker]

Saltwater lagoon swimming pool!
U can probably even grow coral with a greenroom built around it.

On a side note, a lfs back in cali had a 10,000 gallon shark lagoon made out of a hull of a pirate ship they made. It was freaking awesome. It was more interesting to go to that lfs than it is to go to the Monterey bay aquarium.

[kkiel02]

lets see who pulls the trigger first on this build! one big undertaking .

I'm just glad I have friends like you to help. :)

I still have 5-10 more years till mine even starts. We just moved into this house so it'll be awhile. I'm just excited to see how his goes!

[Big_Pun]

I'm just glad I have friends like you to help. :)

I still have 5-10 more years till mine even starts. We just moved into this house so it'll be awhile. I'm just excited to see how his goes!

very true i will be there in the dirt with you lol

[Scream311]

Ok,

whos gonna go and get this so we can see another Shark Tank ?

http://austin.craigslist.org/for/3707366735.html

Boy do i miss Mine....

[Big_Pun]

so here's my issue what happens when it rains and you get pollution run off. sharks are sensitive to stuff like that. filtration will be nuts and big, huge pull pumps for water flow,big skimmer......
I like james idea of the 700g tank that would easier lol

[kkiel02]

I would raise it slightly so the runoff would go away from the lagoon. You would still get the rain falling in but there's no way around that unless you cover it up.

[eric1283]

It will be under a carport

[kkiel02]

That would work. I figured even if I had a inch or two of rain for a huge tank I would be ok as long as its not too shallow. I will go back to seaworld soon and see what they do. I need to get a pic of their filtration as well. I found a awesome South African site that had a decent outside tank. If I stumble across it again Ill send you the link.

[glarior]

I would talk with the people on shark ray central... they really know their stuff when it comes to this.

I assume black banded bamboo you are referring to the brown banded bamboo? If so, once an adult it will need a footprint of 45-50sqft. If you wanted a mating pair the footprint will be even bigger.

Since in south Texas you will need a good heater setup for the winter but more importantly a massive chiller.

I have seen some nice DIY shark/ray ponds and they are usually inside or blocked off from the elements. Plus they have enough filter equipment to fill most peoples living room.

On the shark/ray forum they had a really good indoor setup using wood, sealer and pond liner.

As for evaporation... you will need a automated RO/DI top off especially during the summer. With my current setup inside the house I lose ~3.5g of water a day with the tank temp at 78 and house temp at 72.

I do not know how other elements that could blow into the pond would react with the sharks.

Good luck!