WTB RO System

[OUCH!]

Looking for a RO system just trying to c what is out their and what kind is good let me know thanks
pic and price please

[jroescher]

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[Big_Pun]

if you think about it you may find a used one with used filters and it will from 50-100, new filters will run you another 60-75 dollars so in the end buying a brand new one is not much more. i know for sure elegant reef and Aquarium design have them in stock i know ER sells the BRS 4 stage at 169.99 not sure on AD prices so i wont say.

[OUCH!]

Ok thanks for the info guys but what is better just RO or RO/DI?

[Big_Pun]

ro/di to get your water down to 0 TDS, you need the di resin to polish it off to 0

[OUCH!]

Ok I c thanks again

[OUCH!]

Ok thanks to ( Big_Pun) I am looking into buying a BFS RO/DI system but I would like to see what other People have and how many gpd is your system? Also how often do u change you filters and how is it working for you? If u were to change it what would u change and why? Let me know? Thanks!!

[Big_Pun]

i just did and went with a brs 6 stage mostly cause i like not having to dump as much DI, even when the first canister of di is almost done its still pulling some out so the second finishes it off, then i replace the exhusted one and rotate them. so the first one gets new di, second on gets bumped to first position and new one is on the end now( if that makes sense). i monitor pressure levels as it drops i know pre filters are done, i also watch tds coming out membrane when tds goes up i replace it. just make sure you get a kit with pressure gauge and inline dual tds meter. also i can show you how to make your di last longer by purging tds creep.

[rrasco]

I like my BFS 4-stage 75 GPD. At 70 PSI I can make about 100 GPD I prefer the BFS DI resin over BRS, seems to last longer for me. BRS resin seemed to change colors the first day I used it. You don't have to start with one, but I'd highly recommend getting a dual inline TDS meter so you can measure after RO and again after DI, so you know what you are getting and when to change your filters. BFS comes with a handheld meter so I use that to check my tap or anything else I may need to, like an ATO reservoir.

[350gt]

Good questions......

I regret buying used...... Not that it was a bad sell but I had to replace filters and membrane not too long after and by then I could of had a new system..

Also get a inline tds meter or a couple... I have a dual, it reads my incoming and outgoing. I then have a single reading after my membrane to tell me when it's time to change the membrane, but mostly to monitor the tds going into the di resin canister...

I honestly just wished my filter would last longer.... But I like to change them right when it hits 1. I had a cyano bloom when I let it slip passed and will never do that again..

mine was a 100gpd or higher but changed it to a 75 I believe....

[rrasco]

If I recall correctly, the 75 GPD is the best fit for most people, because the larger production units require more pressure so you typically need a booster pump for them.

[Big_Pun]

If I recall correctly, the 75 GPD is the best fit for most people, because the larger production units require more pressure so you typically need a booster pump for them.
buckeye has a new one thats a lil more money puts out 88-90gpd at 65psi and higher rejection rate and uses the 75gpd flow ristrictor they are bench tested and certified $50 each

[350gt]

Rrasco is right BRS resin doesn't seem to last as long as BFS... But if you go by color like I was, you will be going through it bi weekly, lol I was.... Until i bought all my tds meters... But it still doesn't seem to hold up much longer... I stick with brs cause it can be bought locally.. I always say I'm going to buy a batch from BFS but never get around to do so...

as a matter of fact I have a set of BRS filters I need to install.... It's always good to keep one set on hand..

[BBQHILLBILLY]

I love this question. How many tanks are in your future? 1st answer that. lol I know from experience you need 150gpd at least.:bigsmile:Get water when ya need it. Dont sit there and wait.

[rrasco]

Chris I plan to replace my membrane with the new high rejection units. Tony I tried the BRS one time b/c I was ordering from them already and didn't want to place a single order for resin from BFS. I still have that resin in there, but it's pretty much dead, still at 0 though so I'm not switching it quite yet. Next time I'll just stock up, I always try to keep at least one cartridge refill on hand...except right now when I don't have any.

Anyone recharge their resin?

[350gt]

Also plan where your putting your unit at.... Somewhere you can easily work on it, where it won't really matter if you have a little spillage and climate controlled would be nice..... Mine is in a hot *** garage... But it works, oh well..

I had my waste water line going into the laundry drain but now having running out the other side of the wall into 2 44 gallon brutes for watering my plants or grass... It builds up fast and why waste all that good water, especially during this drought..

[rrasco]

I love this question. How many tanks are in your future? 1st answer that. lol I know from experience you need 150gpd at least.:bigsmile:Get water when ya need it. Dont sit there and wait.

You need to make sure there is enough pressure to make that much water. Just buying the higher GPD unit doesn't guarantee higher GPD. GPD is a product of temperature and pressure.

[350gt]

I love this question. How many tanks are in your future? 1st answer that. lol I know from experience you need 150gpd at least.:bigsmile:Get water when ya need it. Dont sit there and wait.


Or you could have a reservoir so when you need it, it's on tap.. I have a 20 gallon RO and a 20 gallon saltwater reservoir on hand at all times...... Plus the 10 gallons in my ATO reservoir and 2 5 gallon jugs filled with RO... So I have about 40 gallons of RO n 20 of salt.

[Big_Pun]

75gpd or the new one from buckeye is the best the higher volume per day membranes loose rejection rate and thus waste more di resin. get a good air tight storage container and make big batches it better for your filter run long batches instead of short runs. i have a 55g barrel that only gets to half way before i top it off.

shane if your psi into the membrane is 65psi+ then running a dual 75 would better than one 150gpd

[BBQHILLBILLY]

Heres a blue pic in climate controlled closet. My drain goes to a loquat tree, which is gettin BIG. The bigger the ro/di system is a wise investment.
also get one you can flush your membrane. Those are expensive.

[350gt]

75gpd or the new one from buckeye is the best the higher volume per day membranes loose rejection rate and thus waste more di resin. get a good air tight storage container and make big batches it better for your filter run long batches instead of short runs. i have a 55g barrel that only gets to half way before i top it off.

shane if your psi into the membrane is 65psi+ then running a dual 75 would better than one 150gpd


I read that too, making one big batch is better than smaller batches..... Which is why I do it all at once and I'm good for awhile.. Don't have to turn it on for 10 gallons to fill up my ATO.....

alot less work in the long run.

[Big_Pun]

Heres a blue pic in climate controlled closet. My drain goes to a loquat tree, which is gettin BIG. The bigger the ro/di system is a wise investment.
also get one you can flush your membrane. Those are expensive.
do you run dual 75gpd or dual 150gpd

[BBQHILLBILLY]

I got this one from corydrysdale and have been very happy sense I had a 50gpd. I considered 150gpd was a wise investment. I get a lot of clean water fast.

[BBQHILLBILLY]

It sure does look like that dual75, they have. Ive had this sytem for a couple of years, its great. I highly recommend it. I pull a lot of water when I need it.
Could be dual 150.:bigsmile:

[rrasco]

If it's the one I am thinking of, Cory had a booster pump with it as well, correct?

[BBQHILLBILLY]

yes sir he did. I have it. You have a good memory. Its unplugged here. I have plenty of water pressure.

[350gt]

How often do you change your filter with that system Shane?

[BBQHILLBILLY]

I havent dont anything with the 2 di chambers or the membranes. I think your your supposed to change the carbon every 6 months, but I may have lapsed that. Prefilters every year I think. Im due to change the filters.

[rrasco]

yes sir he did. I have it. You have a good memory. Its unplugged here. I have plenty of water pressure.

Sometimes. :)


I havent dont anything with the 2 di chambers or the membranes. I think your your supposed to change the carbon every 6 months, but I may have lapsed that. Prefilters every year I think. Im due to change the filters.

You've never changed DI? Do you have a TDS meter?

[BBQHILLBILLY]

Theres an inline tds meter and it reads 1 not 0. Im sure I could get it at 0. It actually has switch and incoming is at near 300, I think. Not too bad.
rrasco you think I should change the di? Its been awhile:bigsmile:

[OUCH!]

Ok (BBQ) I only have 40gal now and I am working on a 75 gal. I was reading (rrasco) form on BFS on which RO/DI and i was going to go with the BFS 161 premium series which comes with RO flush valve,TDS3 meter and pressure gauge. But would I need another TDS meter?

[BBQHILLBILLY]

The portable tds meters are neat and dont cost a lot. You can take them anywhere and test the water you drink. From your sink and from the store.
Well worth the cost for a little portable tds meter.:bigsmile:

[OUCH!]

And Big Pun your running a 6 stage I'm Just trying to do RO lol but I think I know what your doing on your set up and thanks for the heads up on the new vs used system and all your info has helped out a lot

[OUCH!]

The portable tds meters are neat and dont cost a lot. You can take them anywhere and test the water you drink. From your sink and from the store.
Well worth the cost for a little portable tds meter.:bigsmile:


Yea I have one that came with my zero water filter lol but it works the same right

[OUCH!]

Theres an inline tds meter and it reads 1 not 0. Im sure I could get it at 0. It actually has switch and incoming is at near 300, I think. Not too bad.
rrasco you think I should change the di? Its been awhile:bigsmile:

So the one the kit comes with is not the inline TDS meter if not how many do I need?

[rrasco]

Shane, I guess as long as you have a low TDS coming out of your RODI then no reason to change it. People do change it when it hits 1 though, I don't always, but I try to.

Ouch, the BFS kit comes with a handheld meter. You can get one of the dual inline meters that are always connected so you can monitor your filters effectiveness, but that's not included. The handheld is portable, the inline is not.

[BBQHILLBILLY]

New is allways better than used with ro/di. membranes can cost. Sometime a membrane can randomly go bad on you. My first system was 50gpd and membrane kept going bad. fyi
If that happens you cant use the water. Might as well be that tap water with fluoride.:bigsmile:

[rrasco]

So the one the kit comes with is not the inline TDS meter if not how many do I need?

There are different ones and it's really up to you. I have a dual inline and a handheld.

Water Source -> Pre-filter -> Carbon -> RO -> TDS #1 -> DI -> TDS #2 -> Purified Water

The handheld is to check your tap and whatever else you want. You don't 'need' any of these, but they certainly help.

[OUCH!]

There are different ones and it's really up to you. I have a dual inline and a handheld.

Water Source -> Pre-filter -> Carbon -> RO -> TDS #1 -> DI -> TDS #2 -> Purified Water

The handheld is to check your tap and whatever else you want. You don't 'need' any of these, but they certainly help.

Ok I found it on BFS page now I know what it is

[BBQHILLBILLY]

The portable tds meters are ez. You put some water in a small cup. You put the meter in it and it gives you a reading. Its that ez.:bigsmile:You have to push a button. Thats it.

[OUCH!]

Heres a blue pic in climate controlled closet. My drain goes to a loquat tree, which is gettin BIG. The bigger the ro/di system is a wise investment.
also get one you can flush your membrane. Those are expensive.

Ok by flush your membrane do u mean one that has an RO flush value right

[BBQHILLBILLY]

it helps clean the membrane; it flushes it and sends the waste down the bad water line:bigsmile:

[OUCH!]

O ok

[BBQHILLBILLY]

LOL It sounds good. May have to call to get specifics. I would also call to get specifics on your membrane warranty. In case it goes bad. They can get pricey.:bigsmile:

[Big_Pun]

The portable tds meters are ez. You put some water in a small cup. You put the meter in it and it gives you a reading. Its that ez.:bigsmile:You have to push a button. Thats it.

you might want to calibrate your Tds meter BBQ just to be sure I had one that after a year went bad on me. I run the digital now


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWbKnsT-kLw

[OUCH!]

i just did and went with a brs 6 stage mostly cause i like not having to dump as much DI, even when the first canister of di is almost done its still pulling some out so the second finishes it off, then i replace the exhusted one and rotate them. so the first one gets new di, second on gets bumped to first position and new one is on the end now( if that makes sense). i monitor pressure levels as it drops i know pre filters are done, i also watch tds coming out membrane when tds goes up i replace it. just make sure you get a kit with pressure gauge and inline dual tds meter. also i can show you how to make your di last longer by purging tds creep.


Man that is good stuff to know thanks again Big Pun. Hay do u have any pics of your system cause I see pic of systems with 2 white filters on top but only count 5 filters is one hidden some where?