PDA

View Full Version : Blue carpet anemone



electricrcplane
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 09:56 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/30/qazetara.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/30/myhavy4a.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/01/30/a6u3aja3.jpg

$200 firm. I ordered a medium and received an XL. This is the easiest of the carpets to care for. Needs a decent sand bed and high flow with lots of light. First person with $200 takes it. Hard to find and rare but needs at least a 55 gallon at this size. I wanted this for my 125 but it is too big to host in my nano until my 125 is ready.

Thanks,
Eric 210 eight eight 4 nine 8 eight eight.

ducati996
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 10:04 PM
holly molly man that thing is huge eric

reefreak
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 10:07 PM
That thing is sweet Eric!

Paul28
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 10:18 PM
Man thats a nice one !!!!

electricrcplane
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 10:53 PM
Not for sale anymore KOA25, Mike is going to host it in his 40 gallon for me until my 125 is ready. Thanks again Mike for saving me from having to sell it.

hobogato
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 11:13 PM
did you order an S. haddoni or an S. gigantea? that one sure looks like a gigantea...

LuckySingh
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 11:15 PM
Bro I am getting one too this week ...going in my 72x33

LuckySingh
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 11:16 PM
did you order an S. haddoni or an S. gigantea? that one sure looks like a gigantea...

+1 ace tentacles looks a little bigger than haddoni

electricrcplane
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 11:27 PM
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=16+1897&aid=2151

hobogato
Tue, 29th Jan 2013, 11:40 PM
Is it super sticky? It looks to me like they sent you a gigantea, which is not a sand dwelling carpet usually. You may want to do some research to try to id it for sure as the care is a bit different.

kris4647
Wed, 30th Jan 2013, 03:51 AM
100% Gigantae one of if not the most difficult carpets to keep. The verrucae or bumps on the column are a dead give away, stickieness is a common but healthy quality of both. It's gonna be huge when settled in, I'd drive to SA for one of those(I'm a collector).

Contact Minh at RC (orionN) if you need any tips. The latest wisdom is using an antibiotic QT if you see signs of stress. It may be big for a 40, they don't suffer bad conditions well. Not saying it will be in them.

Best of luck! The dark color and firm body and deep folds is a great sign.

hobogato
Wed, 30th Jan 2013, 07:41 AM
Contact Minh at RC (orionN) if you need any tips. The latest wisdom is using an antibiotic QT if you see signs of stress.

here is minh's thread here about one of his gigantea nems.

http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?71823-Minh-s-Purple-Gigantea

electricrcplane
Wed, 30th Jan 2013, 11:46 PM
The great thing is the anemone came in really healthy. I took it over to Mike's tonight and he'll be taking care of it while I also read up on the Giganta anemone. It is very sticky and the stings give you a little tingly feeling. I'm working diligently on getting the 125 setup and ready for the specimen.

hobogato
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 07:34 AM
yeah, that is a great score if it is healthy, keep us up to date with it's progress eric.

koa25
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 08:46 AM
He seems happy this morning. I had my circulation pumps off all night so he could settle. He is partly attached to a rock this morning. Had the pumps on for a bit to move the water real good. I left tgem off when i went to work. Only the return is going right now.
18881
18882

Big_Pun
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 08:52 AM
make sure to run a sponge on that vortech, just incase

koa25
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 09:02 AM
Yeah. I was going to run by ER to snag one and some gfo. I was probably going to move the mp to the other side as well.

Pennies2Cents
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 10:20 AM
Very Nice... :)

electricrcplane
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 01:36 PM
Looks great mike.

koa25
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 02:01 PM
Thanks Eric, I got it for free ;)

Scutterborn
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 02:10 PM
That gigantea looks soooo good!!! Hmmm. No, I can't!


-Ben-

electricrcplane
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 08:52 PM
Thanks Eric, I got it for free ;)

That's awesome that you got it for free, I'll take it of your hands before you leave for Hawaii. Lol

Pennies2Cents
Thu, 31st Jan 2013, 11:11 PM
Lol funny! Hawaii nice!

OrionN
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 07:36 AM
It sure is a Gigantea Carpet. How is it doing? Keep us update. Let me know if it is not doing well.

OrionN
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 07:38 AM
We should move this thread to general discussion or Anemone forum instead of for sale

Sherita
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 08:09 AM
I moved this thread to general reefkeeping, since it's now a discussion instead of a sale thread.

koa25
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 08:49 AM
19075
Nem is doing great. Had a small scare when i first got him in the tank. But he is healthy and happy now. Eating like a pig. Color is amazing. Did a good amount of research to make sure i am giving him everything he needs to thrive.

Scutterborn
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 09:11 AM
Wow that's beautiful.


-Ben-

electricrcplane
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 09:52 AM
It looks awesome.

koa25
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 11:10 AM
It's a happy camper right now. I have been feeding him mysis and I was thinking about moving to live food. I keep a steady supply a planktonic food in the tank because I read that they normal don't eat larger prey but sift the currents and of course photosynthesis.

OrionN
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 02:51 PM
It's a happy camper right now. I have been feeding him mysis and I was thinking about moving to live food. I keep a steady supply a planktonic food in the tank because I read that they normal don't eat larger prey but sift the currents and of course photosynthesis.
You got it wrong sir. S. gigantea anmeone is a fish eater. You need to give it fish and seafood. They can eat a whole tang in the wild, but a newly import Gigantea should get smaller pieces of food. I would feed it pieces of seafood size of a pencil eraser. One piece at first and see if he take it. If you slide it thinner, it would be easier for him to digest in his weaken condition. Once the get healthy fish and seafood is what he want, not plankton. You don't have to feed him if you don't want him to growth (once he healthy).

electricrcplane
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 10:03 PM
S. gigantea, or the gigantic carpet anemone, is rarely imported, grows very large (up to a meter in diameter!), has a thin central column, and has slightly longer tentacles that give this anemone a “furry” appearance. S. gigantea resides in the shallow intertidal sand flats, where it is an opportunistic predator and scavenger, consuming animal matter, fish and invertebrates washed in and out with the tide. Like S. haddoni, the gigantic carpet anemone will need a deep sand bed in the home aquarium, though in contrast, cannot pull itself completely beneath the sand. While the gigantic carpet anemone is not as sticky or aggressive as Haddon’s carpet anemone, it is still a predator, and will sting and consume anything brushing by its tentacles. While all large carpet anemone species need intense lighting, the gigantic carpet anemone will require the most intense. The gigantic carpet anemone occurs in blue, red, green, purple, and pink color morphs.

electricrcplane
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 10:08 PM
Foods and Feeding

What Do Sea Anemones Eat: The Giant Carpet Anemone is a carnivore. Stichodactyla anemones are well equipped with nutritional alternatives for their well-being. In the wild they derive daily nutrition from their symbiotic algae, zooxanthellae, that dwells within their tissues. They also use their venomous cells or nematocysts found in their tentacles to sting and capture prey. This is usually blind prey like urchins, snails, crabs, shrimps, as well as small fish that come into range. They absorb nutrients from the water around them and they consume wastes from resident animals like clownfish. For their well-being it is not necessary for them to be fed by Clownfish they host, though clowns will often carry chunks of food to the anemone.

In captivity you can feed your S. gigantea chopped silversides, cod, and other types of fresh chopped fish (from your grocery store), as well as frozen carnivore preparations. Some say they are not always keen on crustacean flesh, but it is a natural food for them in the wild. You can offer table shrimp, clams, and mussels if yours will accept it. It is sufficient to feed them 2 to 4 times a week, and this avoids overfeeding.

Clownfish hosted with your anemone usually will not be able to sufficiently feed themselves and their anemone with the small quantity of food that is put in a captive environment. You will need to target feed this anemone. You can just offer your clowns a piece of fish flesh and they will usually snatch it out of your hand and give it to their host. However, not all clowns are this smart, so don't depend on the clown fish to feed the anemone.

Diet Type: Carnivore
Meaty Food: All of Diet - They can be fed chopped silversides, cod, and other types of fresh chopped fish (from your grocery store), as well as frozen carnivore preparations.

electricrcplane
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 10:10 PM
Foods and Feeding

What Do Sea Anemones Eat: The Giant Carpet Anemone is a carnivore. Stichodactyla anemones are well equipped with nutritional alternatives for their well-being. In the wild they derive daily nutrition from their symbiotic algae, zooxanthellae, that dwells within their tissues. They also use their venomous cells or nematocysts found in their tentacles to sting and capture prey. This is usually blind prey like urchins, snails, crabs, shrimps, as well as small fish that come into range. They absorb nutrients from the water around them and they consume wastes from resident animals like clownfish. For their well-being it is not necessary for them to be fed by Clownfish they host, though clowns will often carry chunks of food to the anemone.

In captivity you can feed your S. gigantea chopped silversides, cod, and other types of fresh chopped fish (from your grocery store), as well as frozen carnivore preparations. Some say they are not always keen on crustacean flesh, but it is a natural food for them in the wild. You can offer table shrimp, clams, and mussels if yours will accept it. It is sufficient to feed them 2 to 4 times a week, and this avoids overfeeding.

Clownfish hosted with your anemone usually will not be able to sufficiently feed themselves and their anemone with the small quantity of food that is put in a captive environment. You will need to target feed this anemone. You can just offer your clowns a piece of fish flesh and they will usually snatch it out of your hand and give it to their host. However, not all clowns are this smart, so don't depend on the clown fish to feed the anemone.

Diet Type: Carnivore
Meaty Food: All of Diet - They can be fed chopped silversides, cod, and other types of fresh chopped fish (from your grocery store), as well as frozen carnivore preparations.

References

Animal-World References: Marine and Reef
Scott W. Michael , Damselfishes & Anemonefishes, TFH Publications, 2008
Ronald L. Shimek, Guide to Marine Invertebrates: 500+ Essential-to-Know Aquarium Species, Microcosm, 2005
Alf Jacob Nilsen and Svein A. Fossa, Reef Secrets: Starting Right, Selecting Fishes & Invertebrates, Advanced Biotope Techniques, T.F.H Publications inc., 2003
Helmut Debelius and Hans A. Baensch, Marine Atlas Volume 1 (Baensch Marine Atlas), Microcosm Ltd, 1997
J. Charles Delbeek, The Effects of Lighting on Bulb-tip Development in the Bulb Tentacle Anemone, Entacmaea quadricolor (Rüppell and Leukart, 1828), with Additional Observations on Sexual Reproduction in E. quadricolor and Stichodactyla gigantea (Forsskål, 1775), Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine, Copyright 2003
Joyce D. Wilkerson, Clownfishes, TFH Publications, 1997
Bob Goemans, Gigantic Sea/Carpet Anemone, Animal Library, Saltwatercorner.com

OrionN
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 10:54 PM
Electricrcplane,
Some of the information you type are correct while other seem to be out of date or just plain wrong.
Gigantea have quite strong and well capable of capture and killing larger fish and eat them. Haddoni and Gigantea dose have the most potent sting of the host anemones. They will eat anything that stumble into their tentacles. The do not live on the sand like Haddoni but will attach to the rock structure near the sand surface. I got three Gigantea right now and none stay on the sand like my three Haddoni carpet. Their main food isn't plankton, they like chunkier food, but small bits of food like flake food and Mysis will be consume also.
They do seem to enjoy a lot of current much more so than Haddoni. They do not get to 1 meter (that is Mertensii Carpet).
Be careful regarding the advices of some of the so call expert references you posted above. Some, at least one of them, spew out advices but have no first hand knowledge of the animals the give advices about. Regarding S. gigantea I bet that no more than 1/2 of the people listed above have successful keep this animal long term.

OrionN
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 10:57 PM
S. gigantea, or the gigantic carpet anemone, is rarely imported, grows very large (up to a meter in diameter!), has a thin central column, and has slightly longer tentacles that give this anemone a “furry” appearance. S. gigantea resides in the shallow intertidal sand flats, where it is an opportunistic predator and scavenger, consuming animal matter, fish and invertebrates washed in and out with the tide. Like S. haddoni, the gigantic carpet anemone will need a deep sand bed in the home aquarium, though in contrast, cannot pull itself completely beneath the sand. While the gigantic carpet anemone is not as sticky or aggressive as Haddon’s carpet anemone, it is still a predator, and will sting and consume anything brushing by its tentacles. While all large carpet anemone species need intense lighting, the gigantic carpet anemone will require the most intense. The gigantic carpet anemone occurs in blue, red, green, purple, and pink color morphs.

Who ever wrote this seem to get mix up between the three clownfish hosting carpet anemones.

electricrcplane
Fri, 8th Feb 2013, 11:04 PM
If you have some reference material or links I'd be more than interested in reading them.

OrionN
Sat, 9th Feb 2013, 07:49 AM
I don't have any reference material for you. What I know come from experiences, discussions with people who actually keep them, reading some of the references you cited. Over the years I accumulated them and discarded the in formations that is inconsistent with the rest. Actual printed references on keeping this animal is few and far in between. The generic ones that come in Aquarium publications are iffy at best, wrong at worst.
Gigantea are difficult to keep and not many people keep them long term. There is a person who keep them long term, He had several but one for at least 16+ years. He does not feed the anemone, just what ever fish food it caught. He keep his system at 86 degree. Have surge system in this tank. There is at least 3 cases where people lost tangs/larger fish to these anemones. There have been no reports of these anemones live on sand in aquarium that I know off. They seem to really like high flow but recently a friend of mine observed a large Gigantea that seem to do well at the Waikiki aquarium with what he considered very low flow.
Recently many able to keep them alive initially by treat newly import sick ones with Ciprofloxacin, an antibiotic. Over the next several years we should gain a lot more experiences on these anemones.

koa25
Mon, 11th Feb 2013, 02:05 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/DaEk9yMYBmo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

My clowns ditvhed there GBTA and are now hosting the Carpet ha ha. Poor GBTA. But the clowns are loving it. Eric, you might have to take some clowns when you pick this guy up. I picked up some table shrimp and chopped clam bits to feed him. Read your advice and taking heed of it. Appreciate it. Maybe i'll have to snag one of these guys when i get a tank that is going to be up for more than 2 years.

electricrcplane
Mon, 11th Feb 2013, 02:40 PM
Very nice.

OrionN
Mon, 11th Feb 2013, 04:14 PM
IMO, you got too littel flow on him.
Here is one of my Gigantea. Good luck with your's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X610E8tSQ_o

electricrcplane
Mon, 11th Feb 2013, 04:28 PM
Very nice, I have an mp40 in the new tank and planning on providing a similar current.

OrionN
Sat, 30th Mar 2013, 09:03 AM
So how is this Gigantea is doing? I hope he is doing well. I would love to get un update. Pictures would be great.

koa25
Sat, 30th Mar 2013, 09:22 AM
He's dead... poor guy didn't last long. It was a sad sad day... just kidding. If you look in Eric's (electricrcplane) 125g build. He has recent pictures of it. It is doing great.

LuckySingh
Wed, 17th Apr 2013, 05:04 PM
Nice anemone !!!! We wana see recent pics!!!!

I hve Got a huge large haddoni which moves about a inch or 2 every now and than but also with its size dude moves the huge rock along with him also ...that's the only scary part of having these anemones !!!

Pennies2Cents
Wed, 17th Apr 2013, 05:13 PM
He's dead... poor guy didn't last long. It was a sad sad day... just kidding. If you look in Eric's (electricrcplane) 125g build. He has recent pictures of it. It is doing great.

PLEASE KNOCK ON WOOD! LOL

hobogato
Wed, 17th Apr 2013, 05:26 PM
it seems to be doing well in my tank lucky. it changed color a little and looks more purplish now

http://www.maast.org/showthread.php?65792-250-gallon-solar-reef/page63

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/hobogato/250/DSC01338_zpsa72d7db0.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/hobogato/media/250/DSC01338_zpsa72d7db0.jpg.html)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/hobogato/250/DSC01340_zps0115e831.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/hobogato/media/250/DSC01340_zps0115e831.jpg.html)

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c329/hobogato/250/DSC01342_zpse37317c8.jpg (http://s30.photobucket.com/user/hobogato/media/250/DSC01342_zpse37317c8.jpg.html)

OrionN
Tue, 29th Apr 2014, 08:39 AM
24375
After several change of hand, this beautiful anemone is now in my reef. Doing well. he is as purple as purple can be. Sorry for the LED Blue. It is really hard for me to take picture under LED
http://www.maast.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=24375&d=1398778562

Dean
Tue, 29th Apr 2014, 08:42 AM
Great job man. Very pretty nem. I had the pleasure of seeing it in Aces tank before it changed hands.

- Dean