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reefreak
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 02:26 PM
Okay I have a large refugium section in my sump I did use macro on my current tank but have always wanted to do xenia to help with nitrates what is your guys input?
Scream311
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 02:49 PM
PM, Troy Valentine

Unless hes able to Chime in here.

Hes got Great Inspiration for Fuge Ideas INCLUDING Xenia
reefreak
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 02:51 PM
I seen his setup and have seen it in person reason why im thinking about trying it.
Scream311
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 02:52 PM
DO IT !!!!!
350gt
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 02:56 PM
Why not both?

make a little egg crate section for the chaeto...


I might try it soon..
reefreak
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 03:01 PM
What i was thinking too, but wouldn't there be like a nutriance problem?
Troy Valentine
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 09:52 PM
Why not both?

make a little egg crate section for the chaeto...


I might try it soon..

+1

In my system the Xenia is the primary DOM remover, and macro is the "fine tuner". Since Xenia doesn't grow as fast as the macro, the macro is faster at filling the nutrient surplus when needed. Once the Xenia growth catches up to the nutrient load, the macro growth will wane. My 2 large skimmers are producing very little skimmate because of this efficiency. I just use them to oxgenate the system. I've been using this form of filtration for many years with some success.....
Southern Flame
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 09:58 PM
This topic has piqued my interest, could someone please explain how to set this up?
Troy Valentine
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:02 PM
These are pics of pics.....I didn't own a digital camera in '02

http://www.maast.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17081&d=1351050091

This is a pic of my old 135 from 2002.... At that time I didn't have a fuge, so I tried to concentrate the Xenia growth on the outskirts of the display (left side)......

http://www.maast.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=17082&d=1351050091

I was unsuccessful.....I wouldn't recommend doing this
350gt
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:10 PM
Plus your fuge looks awesome in the process!
Southern Flame
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:11 PM
What type of lighting would I need for the fuge since it is in my sump?
Troy Valentine
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:37 PM
The same light you would use to grow SPS.... I use a 150 MH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKfhOu2GBaA
Southern Flame
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:41 PM
Ah ok, I just have a reg flourcent plant light on mine so it will be awhile before I try something like that lol
Southern Flame
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:46 PM
The same light you would use to grow SPS.... I use a 150 MH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKfhOu2GBaA
Just watched the video OMG!! That's beautiful!!!!
BBQHILLBILLY
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:52 PM
Lol. Thats cool. I may have to get a frag from you Troy for this 7ft sump when its running.:bigsmile:
Southern Flame
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 10:55 PM
Lol. Thats cool. I may have to get a frag from you Troy for this 7ft sump.:bigsmile:
Right!! It's awesome looking!!! It's so pretty I'd put it in my display!!! :-)
reefreak
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 11:03 PM
Troy you think I'd be fine using t5 or a powercompact?
Troy Valentine
Mon, 21st Jan 2013, 11:17 PM
Multiple T5s with quality bulbs for sure, 2-55w PCs with a good reflectors in a shallow tank will work. Keep the water as clear as possible to aid with light penetration. Remember the goal with this approach is for the Xenia to thrive not just survive... I have found it near impossible to burn or over light these corals. The fastest growth I have ever seen was from a 65k iwasaki 400watt M59, with a PPFD of 250+ and guessing par at 700 to 800 for 12hrs a day.