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four7mike
Sun, 9th Dec 2012, 01:47 AM
DSB 8-10"





FISH 1st Drop
All rather sensitive fish who will be added no less than 6 months in all at once all after 1 month or more qt and food acclimation


Moorish Idol
Leopard Wrasse 4
Clown Fish Pair
Neon Gobies 4
Cleaner Wrasse 4
Copperband 2
Hippo Tangs xs- what do you think my max can be? 8? lol

*Possible grass eels




CORALS
Monti cap Collection
Blastso Collection
Euphyllia Collection
Stylos All
Wall mounted GSP

INVERTS
Sea Pens
Anemones Sherman, Flame
Squamosa
Giga



Micro stars

Mysis

Select pods

Macro



Will try to keep amphipods and bristle worms out through.




Do you think the mix will work? I know the fish list is big but I always compensate for a heavy bioload. What equipment do you recommend?

Big_Pun
Sun, 9th Dec 2012, 02:30 AM
sounds like you got it planned out. but why are you wanting to keep amphipodos and bristle worms. I have some big wrasses that love to eat them bristle worms and pods. with four leopards I would think big pods would be great. also they are a great part of a clean up crew. I don't see any sensitive fish in your list just some finicky eaters. why so many cleaner wrasses.

Ms_Big_Pun
Sun, 9th Dec 2012, 02:38 AM
With 180 gallons, why not go for some less commonly seen wrasses like a Rhomboid pair, lineatus wrasse, potters wrasse...Also, if you have not had past experience with cleaner wrasses, be careful because they can annoy/irritate other fish in the tank. I have 1 in the 150 and ticks off the fish fairly often.

Definitely post pictures along the way. Pics are always fun to look at:)

four7mike
Sun, 9th Dec 2012, 04:06 AM
sounds like you got it planned out. but why are you wanting to keep amphipodos and bristle worms. I have some big wrasses that love to eat them bristle worms and pods. with four leopards I would think big pods would be great. also they are a great part of a clean up crew. I don't see any sensitive fish in your list just some finicky eaters. why so many cleaner wrasses.

I want to have a mysis dominate tank and not have the amphipods competing for space. As fas as the multiple wrasses I had a 240g that had 6 and they loved it. trick is even numbers. Your right though finicky eaters would be a more appropriate description.

four7mike
Sun, 9th Dec 2012, 04:10 AM
With 180 gallons, why not go for some less commonly seen wrasses like a Rhomboid pair, lineatus wrasse, potters wrasse...Also, if you have not had past experience with cleaner wrasses, be careful because they can annoy/irritate other fish in the tank. I have 1 in the 150 and ticks off the fish fairly often.

Definitely post pictures along the way. Pics are always fun to look at:)

I have worked with all of these fish and stabilized them before. The leopard wrasse can have a harem and 4 are always better than a pair ;) I have read up on the Rhomboids and they also look like a good choice just no experience. I like the suggestion though!

four7mike
Fri, 14th Dec 2012, 04:00 PM
On more of a coral focus, What is recommended for equipment? I'm looking for advise on lights mostly as I as I have never worked with leds

kkiel02
Fri, 14th Dec 2012, 08:40 PM
You wont have any pods with the leopard wrasses they are like mandarins. Add them all at once. They are actually real hardy once they start eating frozen. Plus once you get one to do it the others follow suit ime.

Moorish will be the hard one from what I have read.

Which leopards are you going for by the way? The only one I wouldnt try is the choati. Those are impossible to keep alive from the rc posts on them. Never tried that one- Ive had three types over the years and all did very well.
Aquadome would get some nice variety of them. Now I just have my regular leopard... I will be adding more once I get this tank set in place.

four7mike
Mon, 17th Dec 2012, 10:43 PM
I know a great way to get them over to frozen, works every time on mandrins and twice on blue spotted leopard wrasse which are the ones I plan on. I'll have them switched in qt.

The_wolfeman
Mon, 17th Dec 2012, 11:31 PM
I know a great way to get them over to frozen, works every time on mandrins and twice on blue spotted leopard wrasse which are the ones I plan on. I'll have them switched in qt.

Share your technique, I'm sure we'd all love to hear. Especially those of us keeping mandarins.

sdunn90fowlr
Tue, 18th Dec 2012, 12:04 AM
Be cautious with the Moorish Idol, they are not considered reef safe. They will eat zoas for sure. Not very sure about SPS, but many corals would be lunch.

SoLiD
Tue, 18th Dec 2012, 12:27 AM
Moorish Idols are not an easy fish to keep alive, but know that others have claimed that they love to eat Clams.

And yes, please share your technique to get them to switch over to frozen.

four7mike
Tue, 18th Dec 2012, 01:41 AM
Works like a charm:
In a QT tank or a tank without aggressive feeders get frozen brine and a bag of live brine. I personally keep the live bag floating with a few holes stabbed in it. Keep in mind that brine shrimp water is not true saltwater (this is why when you try to keep brine they never survive long) so just keep them in the bag from the store.
When feeding time comes around feed half live and half frozen. I just add a cube size of frozen brine and squeeze the bag a bit. Continue trending down the mix for a minimum of 2 weeks or until you see the fish eating frozen well. This averages about a bag a week. This is the site I get my info from as far as keeping the live brine healthy, also a good place to order if you don't have them locally. http://www.livebrineshrimp.com/ This takes patience but pays off :)