Some what new to MAAST

[fuzzybob4]

Hello all. I'm kinda new to MMAST some if you may have read some of my other posts on here about corpus reef club that I am trying to get started. I recently moved from Austin to Corpus Christi for school and their is no reef club here so I figured I would start one.
I also have 2 salt water fish tanks ones a 30 gallon half circle and the other a 15 gallon tall I had both of them crash yesterday leaving me with only four fish and all my corals and my seabaeanemone. The fish are a pair of yellow prawn gobies, pink skunk clown and an algae blenny.
So in the next couple of weeks me and my girlfriend are going to go buy a bunch of new fish.
I know that we will be looking for a mated pair of clown fish (snowflakes if possible), a male and female mandarin goby.
I'm wanting to add 5 firefish gobys to one of the tanks because they are really cool when they swim together in groups. Also we want to add black and white heniochus (small), coral banded shrimp pair, panther grouper (small)
The grouper and black and white henoiochous I get all the time in at work so getting them small is not hard to do.

As far as the firefish I don't know if I want red or purple, but I want to find palace that sells in bulk and they don't cost $13 each for the firefish. So if any one knows of a place I can get them cheep and in good quality that would be helpful. As far as the others fish and coral banded shrimp if any one knows of some or or a place other than ORA that I can get the fish and shrimp at it would be helpful. Any other ideas on nano-fish or small fish like coral gobys imput is all ways good to have.

Thankyou

[rrasco]

Welcome to MAAST.

Do you work at an LFS?

If I read that correctly, you're planning to put a panther grouper in a 30? I have been hesitant to put one in a 150.

[fuzzybob4]

I work at Petco and were a magnet Petco so we can order any fish we want as long as its available to us. When we get panther groupers in at work their no brighter than 2 inches and I had one in the tank be for it crashed, he was rally cool to watch. It sleep on the GSP when they closed at night and never bothered my other fish. By working at Petco I know a lot of people that have 150+ fish only tanks so I know eventually I would have to get rid of him, but while small they are not to bad.

[fuzzybob4]

Bump

[hobogato]

i agree with robert's concern. they will eat other fish and shrimp, even when they are small, and their mouth and appetite are not small. this is from personal experience.

[SoLiD]

Hello there Bob. There are a Few of us good Corpus people here on MAAST too. We tend to frequent GC Reef, but I have no objections to the Corpus Petco. They have made some vast improvements in the Aquatics Department in the past year or two, and I have a few tank mates from there in my tank now.

With that said, I see that you mentioned that you have 2 smaller sized tanks. Could you further explain what fish are going in which tanks. Some of the fish you mentioned are a bit out of the norm for a smaller sized tank (this is coming from a guy who grows out tangs in a 40 gallon breeder). Firefish are always cool, but tend to quarrel with each other once they become an adult. It's a wonder that I have 2 in my small 40. Mandarin Dragonette's require a very established tank with tons of live rock and copepods or they will slowly starve. I'm not saying it can't be done; I'm just saying that some extra work is required if you want to see them thrive in a smaller tank. As far as the other fish and shrimp mentioned... I really don't know... I've never owned them, so I can't give you any valuable input on them.

Send me a text if you like and maybe I can point you in the right direction. 361-774-786 Five

-David

[Big_Pun]

David is a great guy to have in your area to help, and if you need info how to go nutz with lighting on a tank lol

[OrionN]

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I also have 2 salt water fish tanks ones a 30 gallon half circle and the other a 15 gallon tall I had both of them crash yesterday leaving me with only four fish and all my corals and my seabaeanemone. The fish are a pair of yellow prawn gobies, pink skunk clown and an algae blenny....
Anemone are delicate. Best to avoid them until you are able to keep your tank stable and not crashing


So in the next couple of weeks me and my girlfriend are going to go buy a bunch of new fish.
I know that we will be looking for a mated pair of clown fish (snowflakes if possible), a male and female mandarin goby.
I'm wanting to add 5 firefish gobys to one of the tanks because they are really cool when they swim together in groups. Also we want to add black and white heniochus (small), coral banded shrimp pair, panther grouper (small)
The grouper and black and white henoiochous I get all the time in at work so getting them small is not hard to do.
you should not add "a bunch of new fish" to your relatively small and new tank. You should not add a pair of Mandarin in a 30 g tank. A extremely well keep reef full of live maybe can support one mandarin, not a pair. A very well run full of live 65 g tank cannot support a mandarin if it have one other fish that compete with the Mandarin for food (one of my tank, I have to remove the Mandarin because it was getting thin from competition of a Flame Angel)
You should not add 5 firefish. You see pictures of multiple firefish in the wild, but in aquarium, they will chase each other and jump out except for one or one pair.
Heniochus will get too big for 30 gal. Panther grouper is a cute fish when small but is a very ugly gray fish when he get a little bigger (quickly). Nobody want a larger panther grouper and you will not able to dump it to the Texas State Aquarium or another aquarist. I would not plan on this because you cannot.

For a 30 g reef tank, you should have 2 or 3 small fish only. You are adding way too many fish, many of which not suitable for small tank.

I would recommend that you get out of the mind set that you will keep an animal for a short time then get rid of it. It will not work, unless you want to dump it into the bay (don't ever do this) or flush it down the toilet. Other reefer will not want you ugly fish.

I would pay attention to the advices you get here. Your tank crashed. If you do the same thing, it will only crash again.

[Zack]

What caused both of your tanks to crash?

[fuzzybob4]

Thank you all, for your advise. I have been in the hobby for 9 years now, I have keep many different sized fishtanks from 10 gallon reef grow out system to a 55 gallon show tank. I know that the panther grouper will out grow the aquarium and I know that I will have to find a new home for him, if I have to I can take the fish all they way to Austin to do so. I know people that live their that have large aquariums. The fire fish I did not know they would fight when they got older that's good to know thanks.




Both of my tanks crashed because of so stupid drunk pored a whole bottle of vodka in the the tanks. I live with my girlfriend in her apartment and its shaird with 3 other girls that party evey night. So I lost most of my fish. All the corals lived witch is great! So I did a complet water change on the tanks. They are both doing great.


David I would like to have you join http://corpusreefclub.webs.com it would be great to have local people on their. Also glad to here that you have few fish from Petco, I'm trying to make the aquatics department a lot better. I work all weekend you should stop by some time, I would like to talk about the tanks to you and see if other hobbyist have any input that can help the store.( mostly the fish)

since the tank crashed I don't plan on putting the mandrel goby into the tank soon because their is no food for him, but when I do have one I seed the tanks with live food for them to eat as well I also feed all my fish a type of food from Austin that they eat as well.

[fuzzybob4]

The fish that are going in to the 30 gallon are
2 yellow gobies (pair) already have
lawnmower blenny : already have
2 black clowns
2 firefish
As far as the panther grouper and black and white henoiochous I might convincer to get other cool small fish that we won't have to get rid of. So if any one has suggestions on what are some good small fish to add that would be helpful.

in the 15 gallon were going to put
a pair of coral banded shrimp (mated pair)
Pair of clown fish ( not sure on why kind yet) and that all that we know of for right now, any suggestions for this tank will be good as well.

[fuzzybob4]

We will not be adding any really big fish to our tanks.

[Scutterborn]

We will not be adding any really big fish to our tanks.

:)


-Ben-

[SoLiD]

I have been extremely busy with work, but I will get in touch with you soon.

[fuzzybob4]

Cool

[fuzzybob4]

Bump

[fuzzybob4]

Added some new fish
30gallon pair of snowflakes and in the 15 a pair of black clowns
many one got any sugestions on what to put next?

[jvene1]

Fairy wrasse! They're pretty sweet.

[SoLiD]

What's all in both tanks... fishwise?

[SoLiD]

I've always liked these types pygmy wrasses for smaller tanks.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/large/lg-74616-tanakas-possum-wrasse.jpg

[fuzzybob4]

I'm my 30 gallon I have a pair of yellow prawn gobys, an law mower blenny and the snowflake clowns. In the 15 gallon just the black clowns.
Both tanks have corals and rocks.

[fuzzybob4]

What about clown gobys And people's thought on them?

[SoLiD]

If these are what you are referring to, then they are pretty cool little guys. Not much movement from them though. They just pretty much sit on top of something all day.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/images/categories/large/lg-90164-clown-yellow-goby.jpg

[fuzzybob4]

Yea, I've had a few here and thief in my tanks. I know they live on acros and different sps. Their cool and my girlfriends favorite one is the panda goby. But their too small for 15 and a 30 gallon tank.

[Big_Pun]

my g/f emily has two sexxy shrimp in her 20, they do well with a nem, as they will host it. she has some bta's that stay small so they are perfect for nanos. they split every once in a while, and ill post them for sale. trimma gobies are cool also.

[fuzzybob4]

Sexy shrimp are cool but they need starfish as a food sorce and I like star fish.

[jcnkt_ellis]

Never heard of sexy anemone shrimp needing stars as a food source. I kept one on a maxi-mini for over six months without ever feeding it. The only reason I lost it is because the hawkfish ate it.

[Sherita]

Sexy shrimp don't eat starfish. Harlequin shrimp eat starfish. Sexies will eat whatever food you feed the tank.

[OrionN]

Breeding clown gobies will breed and lay egg on an Acropora or other SPS. Essentially they kill a patch of SPS and put their eggs there. This can cause problem for your SPS. Usually they choose a area not really have a lot of current and can start to cause Acropora receding and possible death of a colony (if the colony is stressed).

[fuzzybob4]

My mistake on the shrimp. Lol
Yea the only spa I have is large show montipora cap coral.

[fuzzybob4]

Well almost time to go out of town!
update as well. I have not added any new fish yet, I might add some after I get back from going out of town.
I don't know what the next fish will be yet, may be a fire fish or cardnal of some sort.