Quan's 55 gallon reef tank

[zaquanh_09]

:angry:hey whats up everyone , im zaquan , done tons of reasearched still learning as i go lol
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i actually drift cars which is quiete expensive ,

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and i do IT


I havnt gone to an event in a year , started to get bored and decided i wanted a salt water tank , ive never even had a gold fish lol , anyways about 2 months ago , my friend calls me up ask me if i want his salt water tank , he hasnt used it in a long time its just sitting there , he wants 30 bucks

so that gets me 10 gal tank 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 hermit crab , 2 anemone , 2 poisons worm things , live sand and live rock , filter, moon light ,

this was after i took everything out and cleaned it flush the sand cleaned the tank , water was old , changing colors all kinds of stuff , had to take the poisonous things out , and the shrimp died

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my tank set up and running , i took the 2 rocks with anemonoes to a bunch of fish places , no one can tell me what these are ,

btw if anyone can identify these anemones that would really help to , everything in the tank is good and there healthy ,

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picked up a set of led daylight fixture with moon lights ,

then off to get fish ,

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as you can tell the anemones are growin , i picked up a blue neon damsel at first , had him about a week or 2 then went back and picked up one domino damsel and a oscolaris clown fish , they all did well in the tank , the blue damsel did follow the domino for a while, they were all about the same size , i think the clown may be bigger ,

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blue neon was hiding

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picture of the second anemone

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anemone 1
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wish i could have got pics of the blue damsel , hes always hiding , update on them well , the domino diseaperead , not sure if one of the other fish ate him or he jumped out and my dog ate , he was no where to be found ,


then the other day the blue damsel got squashed on a rock when i was doing a water change , i think he got scared , the clowfish is doing great

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THEN

i got married and my mother in law gave us this

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cleaned it and tried to get all the scratches and deposits off , there was alot ,

18in t8 bulbs thinking of making my own brackets and run 4 18in' t5ho , 2 white 2 purple , i dont think thats enough tho

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stay tuned for more

[reefreak]

Welcome to maast are you planning on doing coral and those anemones look like rock anemones

[zaquanh_09]

yes def getting corals , need to figure out what i want to do for lighting ,

[allan]

Welcome to MAAST!

That second tank looks like a 55 gallon tall tank... My daughter's fiance is going to be converting his to salt. I would recommend a sump for that tank vice using the filter method. You would definitely want to take your time on this next one since it looks as if you will have to run it through a cycle with new sand and rock. You can help offset that by using your existing live rock, but since you will probably want more rock... curing it will give you another cycle.

You can put off working on your lights while you get the sand and rock established, and your sump/filtration methodology working. If you go T5 I'd try to stuff as much as you can in there, which may be four 36" bulbs? or six of the 24"? Not sure what you can put in there... I'm a fan of MH, but with that tank you'd want a dual MH set up. I would think, anyway.

Feel free to ask anything that pops up. There are a lot of experts here on MAAST that can, and will, offer advice.

[Mr Cob]

those look like tube anemones...?

wait, maybe rock anemones

[ErikH]

Dual 150 DE would work wonders on that tank. I recommend a sump too. Gotta have some place to hide a fan for evaporative cooling.

[Noob]

I would suggest painting the background and slowing down a little.

[zaquanh_09]

Welcome to MAAST!

That second tank looks like a 55 gallon tall tank... My daughter's fiance is going to be converting his to salt. I would recommend a sump for that tank vice using the filter method. You would definitely want to take your time on this next one since it looks as if you will have to run it through a cycle with new sand and rock. You can help offset that by using your existing live rock, but since you will probably want more rock... curing it will give you another cycle.

You can put off working on your lights while you get the sand and rock established, and your sump/filtration methodology working. If you go T5 I'd try to stuff as much as you can in there, which may be four 36" bulbs? or six of the 24"? Not sure what you can put in there... I'm a fan of MH, but with that tank you'd want a dual MH set up. I would think, anyway.

Feel free to ask anything that pops up. There are a lot of experts here on MAAST that can, and will, offer advice.

yes its a 55 tall , exact 48 across but not exacly 13in wide just a bit under,

i plan to use the old tank as a sump , should getting live rock for both tanks , and more live sand ,


as far as the lights go i didnt want to change to much because it was a gift , but the only space under the canopy is a 18in t8 light , i may have some plexi cut and make a canopy , and then hang a light but im not sure yet , i dont think the space will let me , specially if i want to do corals and clams and such

[zaquanh_09]

those look like tube anemones...?

wait, maybe rock anemones
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no one knows its a mystery , but it eats brine shrimp , light and growing lol

[zaquanh_09]

I would suggest painting the background and slowing down a little.

im tanking it very slow im still mixing salt havnt even started the tank up yet to get things growing , that will be this week , then do all my test

and i dont want to paint the back ground , will use my live rock to cover anything

[koa25]

I want to say tube nem. But my tube's tube is completely buried in the sand. Not too much shows when he is hungery. But the tentacles look a little like rock... Welcome to MAAST and I support the sump idea. It will help greatly. If anything a place to hide all your equipment and keep the main display clear of heaters and fans.

[ErikH]

You'll definitely need a change in lighting for corals and clams. Otherwise you'll slowly kill your stuff. Clams require boatloads of light and a healthy mature system. Take it slow is the best advice. Keep going at this rate and you'll be destined for a crash. A tank's biological filtration needs time to adjust after every fish, every coral.

[ErikH]

Oh, and those are rock anemones. You'll see them at the coast along the jetties, they're all over the place.

[ErikH]

.....also, the tank's cycling process will take about a month before you can start adding things. The only thing that gets big rewards with this hobby is patience.

Now please post pics, and videos of you drifting! :)

[reefreak]

What size tank are you going to use for a sump im using a 20 long for mine

[zaquanh_09]

You'll definitely need a change in lighting for corals and clams. Otherwise you'll slowly kill your stuff. Clams require boatloads of light and a healthy mature system. Take it slow is the best advice. Keep going at this rate and you'll be destined for a crash. A tank's biological filtration needs time to adjust after every fish, every coral.

yup and no im still going at a good rate , everything that has gone in my tank has been quarantined and drip acclimated tested all the time ,

when i got the led lights then the algae started flurishing , i have 3 crabs wich have all gotten bigger inc the fish

clams are way down the rd , once my tank is matured , and lighting is a big must but im still doing research on what i want to do , or if i just want to get my own canopy and fit them in there

[zaquanh_09]

.....also, the tank's cycling process will take about a month before you can start adding things. The only thing that gets big rewards with this hobby is patience.

Now please post pics, and videos of you drifting! :)

yea i wait a while before adding things , and my small tank was already matured but it crashed due to neglect so i got it and fixed it up ,

and ill post some pics in here , ill be at an event this weekend , hopefully ill be driving

[reefreak]

What side of town are you in are you in sa?

[zaquanh_09]

What size tank are you going to use for a sump im using a 20 long for mine

im not sure i was going to use my old tank but we have a beta fish in bamboo that needs more space , so i may give that tank to the beta , and get a sump with chambers , protien skimmer and piping , tank is not drill so i think im going to have it hang over the back

ill post more pics of the tank too maby you guys can help me figure out this lighting , or just take the top off and make a better one

[zaquanh_09]

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[reefreak]

Ok cool im running a 6x39 watt 36inch t5 bulb over my 55

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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[reefreak]

Nice pics man I am a tuner fan lol

[zaquanh_09]

Ok cool im running a 6x39 watt 36inch t5 bulb over my 55

i was thinking about running i may have a canopy made for it from plexi and hang the lights ,

[zaquanh_09]

Nice pics man I am a tuner fan lol


cool thank i try and get into alot of stuff , i do IT , been drifting for years , LOVe photography , do all my own work on my car ,

it looks like crap now , its my daily and i ran out of money , then got in to fish lol , another expensive hobby

[reefreak]

Wow a clear canopy would be very unique I know phenomenal aquatics one of are sponsers on here Carries the ecoray 60d led which I hear gives amazing gfowth I think sinsterlou has them

[zaquanh_09]

Wow a clear canopy would be very unique I know phenomenal aquatics one of are sponsers on here Carries the ecoray 60d led which I hear gives amazing gfowth I think sinsterlou has them

lol yea tryna some thing not to expensive but very nice , since i cut vinyl theres plenty of shops i work with now for supplys i can get a good deal on some cnc plexi , that way i can make my canopy seal it still have a lid so the fish wont get out lol and i can feed them

[350gt]

Seen this car before if your on TXR..... I haven't been on that site in awhile since this hobby gets addicting and costly...

If your tank is 48" across I have a fixture that would fit perfect and would be more than enough light..


Listen to everyone's advice, take it slow and those who rush are usually the ones that run into problems.

[allan]

you out at vance jackson on wednesday nights?

[zaquanh_09]

Seen this car before if your on TXR..... I haven't been on that site in awhile since this hobby gets addicting and costly...

If your tank is 48" across I have a fixture that would fit perfect and would be more than enough light..

Listen to everyone's advice, take it slow and those who rush are usually the ones that run into problems.

cool yea i saw them , im going to post up pics of what i have now


you out at vance jackson on wednesday nights?

yea i went last week

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[allan]

A friend of mine races his car (180+) somewhere around town. He recognized your car and said you were pretty good. Then he started describing the mods on your car which served to confuse me. He gave up when I pointed out that you didn't have four wheel drive. :)

Looking forward to your 55 build.

[zaquanh_09]

A friend of mine races his car (180+) somewhere around town. He recognized your car and said you were pretty good. Then he started describing the mods on your car which served to confuse me. He gave up when I pointed out that you didn't have four wheel drive. :)

Looking forward to your 55 build.''

lol thanks , what does your friend drive? and naw not 4 wheel drive , ive been driving on and off about for years , ill be picking up a sump and skimmer setup on friday , and hopefully sand and live rock to let it run over the weekend while im at mineral wells , heres a flyer too if any of you guys want to come hang

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

the light housing are about 3in wide , 22in long , currently has 18in bulb , if i want to run coral is it possible to run 4 t5 lights or 6 ,, or for space purposes 2 mh bulbs and some blue led strips

[Mr Cob]

I would toss those fixtures, they won't do squat for coral. You won't want to use that top either...it will not allow much transfer of air. Go open top or get a canopy built for your tank.... once you figure out if you want to go open top or use a canopy then you can start looking at lighting...either a fixture or a retro kit to instal into the canopy.

[zaquanh_09]

I would toss those fixtures, they won't do squat for coral. You won't want to use that top either...it will not allow much transfer of air. Go open top or get a canopy built for your tank.... once you figure out if you want to go open top or use a canopy then you can start looking at lighting...either a fixture or a retro kit to instal into the canopy.

yea thought of that rouute too , or just hanging it like my other tank ,


how low is too low before MH light really start heating up the water?
4in ?

was thinking about running 18in blue actinic lights and 2 250mh lights

[Mr Cob]

I have mine pretty close ...6" away from surface of water. Not sure I would want to go any closer. Hard to keep water from splashing on the bulbs and you lose light coverage area.

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[zaquanh_09]

Wet/dry sump sump is set up with LR
Overflow box 600gph


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I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?ibznq0 so i want to get this im thinking on friday , it doesnt have a pump tho

how should i go about calculating , how many gph i will need

as well as how do i know what rating of power heads to use

from reading other stuff ,


according to my math, on your 55, your gonna want between 165 and 275 gallons per hour through your sump, roughly, so i would suggest going with something that has about 300 gallons per hour at about 3 foot of lift, (tank height - sump height)

[zaquanh_09]

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its hot in a drift car :( lol nice morning tho
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stoped my a shop on the way home , who just happen to have SAND yay was going to spend way more on stuff at petco

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poured some sand in , OMG nastiest **** ever lol sand had tree leaves was pretty much dirt brown and green lol

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after taking the sank out and cleaning it out , took the rest of the water out , then refilled and mixed in my salt water salinity should be spot on by tonight


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about 2 am lol i was up allnight haha wanted to get the sand in

have a powerhead and a filter pump in there right now just to circulate the salt mix more until i get my sump



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only bad thing about everything is that the tank is close to the wall and i didnt measure how far the overflow tank would need to be from the wall , i could always to it from the side , or move it a inch lol

[Mr Cob]

I would put a filter/sponge/sock on the powerhead to help remove some of that stuff, otherwise it's just going to settle and stir up again at some point

[Noob]

You need to be at the least 6" from the wall so you can have room for the overflow.
I would also recommend doing what Mr. Cob said, because you will get the same dust cloud again.
Where did you get the sand?
Was it alive? Or dried out? Did it smell?

Also if i understand correctly, your sand levels "should" be either less then 1" or over 4".
Im pretty sure someone will chime in with the correct sand bed depth and the reasoning.

[zaquanh_09]

You need to be at the least 6" from the wall so you can have room for the overflow.
I would also recommend doing what Mr. Cob said, because you will get the same dust cloud again.
Where did you get the sand?
Was it alive? Or dried out? Did it smell?

Also if i understand correctly, your sand levels "should" be either less then 1" or over 4".
Im pretty sure someone will chime in with the correct sand bed depth and the reasoning.


yea i know :( i think i will move it i dont really want the overflow on the side lol it was late i dont know how i missed that lol

and yea i know i will get the cloud again i dont mind as much since its still circulating evertyhing , i want ot to blow everything around so it will start to settle , i turn off the power for the power head so that it settles , then go back , once i get rock in there it wont have that much cloud ,


and sand was from phenomenal , and was alive , and did smell ,

and my sand level isnt even right now but its over 60 pounds , it will be a medium sand bed , and i put crate thingys underneath it for the breathing side , i dont want a shallow bed or a deep bed , i think its around 4in now just uneven in spots , theres more in the back than the front plus im adding the contents of my other tank as well , there is a border on the tank ,

[koa25]

You probably wanted to rinse that substrate pretty good. Specially if it smelled. It helps remove leftover organics and what not. But sand beds between 1 and 4 inches can be bad for a tank. One inch is for looks 4 inch and above is for biological benefits and anything inbetween can cause issues with catching left over food and organics and not having the life in the sand to properly dispose of it. So basically the sand band becomes a catch all for poop, food, debris and so on that can be broken down naturally and will start raising ammonia levels in teh tank. No buenos. It was a pleasure meeting you the other day at the fishstore man. Always nice to place a face to the name.

[zaquanh_09]

You probably wanted to rinse that substrate pretty good. Specially if it smelled. It helps remove leftover organics and what not. But sand beds between 1 and 4 inches can be bad for a tank. One inch is for looks 4 inch and above is for biological benefits and anything inbetween can cause issues with catching left over food and organics and not having the life in the sand to properly dispose of it. So basically the sand band becomes a catch all for poop, food, debris and so on that can be broken down naturally and will start raising ammonia levels in teh tank. No buenos. It was a pleasure meeting you the other day at the fishstore man. Always nice to place a face to the name.

Haha wats up man , definently good to meet you , i pick up my sump and lights today , to many hobbies not enough money lol i still need LR and fix my car haha

and it will be at 4+in thick ,

and i didnt know it was that bad till i poured a little in the tank , the smell was contained , i took it outside and pretty much flushed it out till i could see into the water to the sand,

[koa25]

Good stuff buddy, and i know what you mean. I have trucks I drop large amounts of money. But that has stopped ever since I got back in this hobby. But I am slowing down in SW so I might have to refocus on the trucks again. I'll be moving at the end of the month and might have some extra LR for you. A couple of decent boulder sizes I can toss your way no charge. I got them for free so I will pass on the favor. They came from Clifton and they had been in his tank for years and my tank for a few months now.They are very well established and alive.

[zaquanh_09]

Good stuff buddy, and i know what you mean. I have trucks I drop large amounts of money. But that has stopped ever since I got back in this hobby. But I am slowing down in SW so I might have to refocus on the trucks again. I'll be moving at the end of the month and might have some extra LR for you. A couple of decent boulder sizes I can toss your way no charge. I got them for free so I will pass on the favor. They came from Clifton and they had been in his tank for years and my tank for a few months now.They are very well established and alive.


lol and on top of that im going to buy a new car soon and i want a truck lol , cool deal on the LR definently appreciated ,, i need as much as i can get lol ,

[koa25]

Oh man, What kind of truck? I can't own anything that isn't 4wd or a motorcycle. But sounds good. I will let you know when I start breaking it down. I will be out of town a couple weeks. But it will be at the end of July.

[zaquanh_09]

Oh man, What kind of truck? I can't own anything that isn't 4wd or a motorcycle. But sounds good. I will let you know when I start breaking it down. I will be out of town a couple weeks. But it will be at the end of July.


im not sure yet manye silverado 1500 or bigger or a navigator , there pretty cheap ive seen ,

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O WOW bright lol

has a bad switch and dirt for days , stoped working early woulnt even kick on , tried to turn the switch and it just broke off

[zaquanh_09]

went to mineral wells saturday , then ft worth sunday , spent all day both days out side , full of tire smoke , beer gatoraid water and cars and noise and people drifting into tvs water is crystal clear now on in the tank , sadly you can see all the imperfections in the glass :( all well

gota start cleaning the sump and pick up my plumbing, fix the lights then try and hang them ,

[koa25]

If the glass is bugging you too much you can go to petco and pick a new 55 for the $55 right now with their dollar per gallon sale. Just an idea. I hate scratches and scuffs on my glass.

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[Mr Cob]

Seems too soon for fish bro

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[zaquanh_09]

Seems too soon for fish bro

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i need a heater ASAP but other than that its doing well , clown fish seems to stay at the top but he did that in the other tank too

[reefreak]

i do agree with rob it does seem to early

[zaquanh_09]

i do agree with rob it does seem to early


even if everything is already established in the tank ?


only thing i need to hook up is the sump and heater

[reefreak]

Well it doesn't matter what was in the old tank the water needs to balance out with the amonia nitrates and nitrites it should cycle out for atleast a month before anything goes in

[zaquanh_09]

Well it doesn't matter what was in the old tank the water needs to balance out with the amonia nitrates and nitrites it should cycle out for atleast a month before anything goes in

ahh true i test everything before i put them in , ill watch them closely for now so everything is right


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[zaquanh_09]

got some new cool stuff , everyone is doing great . picked up a heater , found out my clown was by the top of the tank because it was trying to get close to the lights for heat .

here are some pics ,

Maroon Clownfishs
bubble-tip anemone
Turbo Snails

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was able to stop by a local shop and do some vinyl on there tank , when i go back ill take other pics , it looks really good

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[Zack]

Are those two species going to be living in there long term? I've heard very bad things can come from mixing clown species in such a small tank.

[Mr Cob]

Man, those maroon clowns are going to destroy your orange one.

You should really only keep up to two clowns in one tank unless it's a very large tank...but even then it's still difficult.

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[Scutterborn]

Man, those maroon clowns are going to destroy your orange one.

You should really only keep up to two clowns in one tank unless it's a very large tank...but even then it's still difficult.

+1. Look at Ace's tank. He has a 250 and was still dealing with too much aggression from the clowns.


- Ben -

[zaquanh_09]

Man, those maroon clowns are going to destroy your orange one.

You should really only keep up to two clowns in one tank unless it's a very large tank...but even then it's still difficult.

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yea they told me , since i had all my fish out of the tank , i decided to put them all in at the same time ,

the bigger clown doesnt mess with anyone , the small maroon chased the oc around but not bad , so far there all very well even with the cardinal , i was thinking about getting another anemone to try and host the single one in. worst case is i trade them in for credit ,

[hobogato]

i agree with the others. take it from personal experience, it will look like minor aggression and then you will wake up and look at the tank and one will be dead. clowns can kill each other very quickly and those maroons will eliminate the other ones at some point regardless of how many anemones you have. my 250 has 4 anemones, and the pair of percs will not let another clownfish claim any of them and they are spread all over the tank.

[Flyride95]

Im glad im reading this lol. So you cant mix clowns? Meaning say one maroon and one OC?

[RayAllen]

correct, in almost all cases its not going to work. The are exceptions like enormous aquariums where they do not come across one another very often. Im talking city aquarium size...

[Flyride95]

Yea I do not want one that big lol. I perfer 2x50gal over 300gal - 1000gal personally.

[zaquanh_09]

anemone idk wats up with him , hopefullly just stressed , guna check the water in a bit , ive had it since thur. would a waterchange be bad right now ?
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mounted the lights 175 MH blue vho
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[Mr Cob]

I like the lights man. Nice job.

Honestly you should not have added any fish or coral until you got everything set up and stable and maintained stable parameters for a month. If you are still adding equipment, messing with lights and don't have much live rock then I would say you have not accomplished a stable system yet.

Anems do best in tanks that are well established, seriously. I honestly think you should really slow down...ask the questions first then add later based on feedback you get and research you do. It's always up to you to decide what's best for your tank setup but just try taking your time a bit more.

Not trying to hate on anything or be a pain just offering some feedback to help you be more successful with this tank. In my opinion you don't even have enough live rock to sustain a full-on reef. I'd focus on boosting your filtration before adding anything else. Looks like you are set on lights now. Good job. Set on DSB too. Good job. Now try and increase your flow...surface agitation and more live rock.

[Big_Pun]

I agree with mrcob. people forget live rock is the heart of filtration for a reef tank. not just whats in your sump.

[RayAllen]

I agree with Rob,

We are trying to put you on a path of success. You mention you did a lot of research, but you have made several bad choices right from the start. Your anemone will die if you choose to leave it in your aquarium. My suggestion would be to take all of your liverock back to the store and use that money to by live rock and then let the tank sit for at least a month and do its thing. You may think that sounds boring, but it is within this time that your tank begins to mature and you start to see some amazing tiny critters that really create a healthy eco system. Its quite a lot of fun within the 1st few weeks to see from day to day what may show up.

Any how take this a helpful advise and use it or do not. All of us want to see a new saltwater hobbiest and his aquarium thrive versus a train wreck where you loose money, live stock and confidence in the hobby. believe it or not there are some great books out there on reef aquariums that can help....

[zaquanh_09]

haha thanks everyone , yea the fish are doing great i agree on the LR what should i do with the anenome now? and all the LR was in a tank that was established for a bout 2 years including the sand , and the sand is from hobogoto's tank , i do need alot more live rock tho , all my levels have been stable ive had the smaller tank about 4 months or so and before that my friend had it for about 2 years , im under the assumption the anenome is stressed , i just fed everyone some mysis ,
i want to sell the 2 powers heads i have and by 2 better ones

is 8 hours of the mh to much , so far it hasnt affected the watertemp.

thanks for all the input

[Noob]

The light are good for 8hrs, i used to run them for 7hrs.
Quite a few people have nuked their tanks with anemones getting chopped up in powerheads, so thats something you need to watch out for. Usually when they are stressed they move around.

Do you have any algae growth happening in your tank?
Have you gotten a clean up crew yet?

[allan]

RayAllen, you meant to say take all the livestock to the LFS and invest in more Live Rock, right? I had to read that statement again.

I'm on board with what everyone else here has been saying, bro. You got to stop, take a step back, and put into action all of the advice you've received. I've typed out many posts here on this thread only to delete them for fear that you may take it the wrong way. I mean nothing but constructive advice here. Now I'm posting because, and I do sincerely mean this with all respect bro, it doesn't seem that you are taking heed to anything anyone says. You acknowledge the advice, but you're not acting on it. You keep making statements like my rock was established and the sand was established. Man, bro, you sound like me when i started out.

The hard truth:

The sand that you got from Ace, undoubtly was seasoned, it was also disturbed and needed to be cleaned. Or if it had been cleaned, then it's no longer anything else than sterile sand. Sand, quite unlike Live Rock, can't just be moved from tank to tank and expect it to perform off the line like it did in the old tank.

The rock... brother, you need more. You need a lot more. Not like two hundred pounds, but you need a lot more. I can only imagine that if you had a 100 lbs of live rock rubble in your sump you may be able to get along without adding too much more... but add more you must for what's in your display tank is meager for a reef.

Sump, did I read that you've yet to hook up a sump? Bro, tank and sump should be done at the same time. I hooked up a sump and started running water through it before setting up a tank... but I would've never attempted the inverse. Build from the bottom up. You should have your tank mechanics all in order before adding the eye candy. Bottom line, nothing gets added until you've got the hardware set up. The basics, anyway.

Livestock, dude, I can understand trying to swing the few items that you picked up with the original gift from your buddy. But in my ever so humble opinion you crossed the line when you picked up your first living thing and put it into that tank from anywhere... without first bending all of your resources and efforts into completing the system. Ever buy window wipers for a car that needs an engine?

Livestock II, that nem??? My finger tips itched when I saw that you added a BTA in your tank 17 days after setting it up. I hate to say it, and I truly hope that I'm wrong, but I think a blanket statement can be made about that nem, and that is that it's toast. If you've a buddy with an established tank (1 year or more) that is wiling to attempt to rehabilitate that nem, get it over there. Quickly. Even then... your buddy may be taking a huge risk if that thing starts to fall apart in his tank.

Dude, I really hope you don't take this the wrong way. I hope that you start following the advice of the others on here, particularly the gentleman that urged you to return your livestock and use that store credit to buy more rock.

[zaquanh_09]

The light are good for 8hrs, i used to run them for 7hrs.
Quite a few people have nuked their tanks with anemones getting chopped up in powerheads, so thats something you need to watch out for. Usually when they are stressed they move around.

Do you have any algae growth happening in your tank?
Have you gotten a clean up crew yet?

yes to both question , and its getting alot more comfortable now in the tank and expanded , wow thing really blew up , im finishing the sump lines tonight that im redoing and mounting my other lights ,

and i set the powed heads high , hopefully it wont try and get to it , and im moving my rock into my sump to make room for a few big pieces , like i said this stuff was already cultured ,

[ErikH]

Yeah man, like Allan said, don't take it the wrong way. A lot of people (myself included) went down the path to destruction from the get go. Keeping a reef is not a race, it is an art form, and the most important part is patience. The planning and setup of a system is so important. Even if you think your plans are perfect, things always change. For those of us that have been on this site for years, I can't tell you how many people jump in and out of this hobby, only due to their own negligence. We're all here for the same reason, to share the advice needed, and to sustain an ecosystem in our homes. Breathe in breathe out and buy some rock.

[zaquanh_09]

RayAllen, you meant to say take all the livestock to the LFS and invest in more Live Rock, right? I had to read that statement again.

I'm on board with what everyone else here has been saying, bro. You got to stop, take a step back, and put into action all of the advice you've received. I've typed out many posts here on this thread only to delete them for fear that you may take it the wrong way. I mean nothing but constructive advice here. Now I'm posting because, and I do sincerely mean this with all respect bro, it doesn't seem that you are taking heed to anything anyone says. You acknowledge the advice, but you're not acting on it. You keep making statements like my rock was established and the sand was established. Man, bro, you sound like me when i started out.

The hard truth:

The sand that you got from Ace, undoubtly was seasoned, it was also disturbed and needed to be cleaned. Or if it had been cleaned, then it's no longer anything else than sterile sand. Sand, quite unlike Live Rock, can't just be moved from tank to tank and expect it to perform off the line like it did in the old tank.

The rock... brother, you need more. You need a lot more. Not like two hundred pounds, but you need a lot more. I can only imagine that if you had a 100 lbs of live rock rubble in your sump you may be able to get along without adding too much more... but add more you must for what's in your display tank is meager for a reef.

Sump, did I read that you've yet to hook up a sump? Bro, tank and sump should be done at the same time. I hooked up a sump and started running water through it before setting up a tank... but I would've never attempted the inverse. Build from the bottom up. You should have your tank mechanics all in order before adding the eye candy. Bottom line, nothing gets added until you've got the hardware set up. The basics, anyway.

Livestock, dude, I can understand trying to swing the few items that you picked up with the original gift from your buddy. But in my ever so humble opinion you crossed the line when you picked up your first living thing and put it into that tank from anywhere... without first bending all of your resources and efforts into completing the system. Ever buy window wipers for a car that needs an engine?

Livestock II, that nem??? My finger tips itched when I saw that you added a BTA in your tank 17 days after setting it up. I hate to say it, and I truly hope that I'm wrong, but I think a blanket statement can be made about that nem, and that is that it's toast. If you've a buddy with an established tank (1 year or more) that is wiling to attempt to rehabilitate that nem, get it over there. Quickly. Even then... your buddy may be taking a huge risk if that thing starts to fall apart in his tank.

Dude, I really hope you don't take this the wrong way. I hope that you start following the advice of the others on here, particularly the gentleman that urged you to return your livestock and use that store credit to buy more rock.


the sand was very very seasoned , lol but yes it was cleaned , so i know it was sterile after after . i let it settle and cycle for a while before adding pieced to it , ive also seen people run 55 very successfully with over hang filers. although im not using that as an excuse seeing how mine is only temporary as it is

i have turbo snails , acrosa snails or something like that a few hermit crabs


ahh i see what all are saying on the nem as well , so far hes doing great scared me for a while but i also think it was stressed and slowly finding its place in the tank ,

but all in all def understand what your saying.

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

question as well , will the fish or anything else that messes with the heater be hurt? do they know . i play to move it into my sump but was curious because the nem was starting to move toward it so i moved the heat a little bit higher up

[Sherita]

You need to slow way down and back up quite a ways. Not meaning to sound harsh, but you are going to wind up with dead animals in that tank. The nem is already dying, and the clowns WILL kill the third one at some point in the future. Once two pair up, they will harass the odd man out until they kill him.

Your tank is not stable, period. You don't have nearly enough live rock to sustain a biofilter. The sand that you got, if you just put it into the tank without rinsing it, then you dumped a lot of detritus and other nasties in there, if you rinsed it, then it's just "sand", with no biofilter left in it. You need a sump hooked up and running. And the tank should have cycled for at least 6 weeks before you started adding life forms to it. Even if the rock was live, you added sand (either full of detritus, or rinsed with nothing in it), and you can't expect the biofilter to just suddenly be adequate after a major change such as that.

Please, please.........take those animals out of that tank, get someone to host them or return them to the lfs. Stop, take a step back, and review the advice you have been given. We all understand the wish to see life in our tanks, but the marine hobby is best taken very slowly, particularly for the benefit of the living creatures we keep in captivity.

We owe it to them to do everything possible to assure that their glass house is suitable, no matter how badly we want to see things happen quickly. Nothing good ever happens quickly in this hobby, ever.

[Noob]

Just as reference and why everyone thinks its odd that your tank is already established.
I down graded my 55g to a 28g.
I bought 2 x 20# bags of live sand, because i new transporting the established sand would just kill all the life in it.
I used the water from the 55g
Out of the 120# of LR from the 55g, 20# went into the new sump, 30# went into the new display, and i add 15# of dry rock to the new display.
1-2 days later i started to notice brown algae growth "ALL OVER" the tank.
After 2-3 weeks i added the coral, snails, hermits, and tomato clown from the 55g.

I did this all about 1 month before you joined MAAST, i believe by next week my tank will have fully run the cycle because most of the algae has disappeared. But even then i know i rushed things and risked all my corals and livestock.

Where did you get your live rock from?
Was it from someones display?

[zaquanh_09]

2 others are already paired , they have been

[zaquanh_09]

Just as reference and why everyone thinks its odd that your tank is already established.
I down graded my 55g to a 28g.
I bought 2 x 20# bags of live sand, because i new transporting the established sand would just kill all the life in it.
I used the water from the 55g
Out of the 120# of LR from the 55g, 20# went into the new sump, 30# went into the new display, and i add 15# of dry rock to the new display.
1-2 days later i started to notice brown algae growth "ALL OVER" the tank.
After 2-3 weeks i added the coral, snails, hermits, and tomato clown from the 55g.

I did this all about 1 month before you joined MAAST, i believe by next week my tank will have fully run the cycle because most of the algae has disappeared. But even then i know i rushed things and risked all my corals and livestock.

Where did you get your live rock from?
Was it from someones display?


its my my friend when i bought his tank i got the LR, LS and live stock , moved everthing to my house cleaned it up a bit and got some better lights , and other things for it

he was already running it for a bout 2 years + before i got it

[Mr Cob]

Powerheads need something covering the intake otherwise it's inevitable that the anem will catch it. Black pantyhose works great.

The color on your nem does not look good.

I think you are missing the point on whether or not the stuff you used was "cultured" or not. Doesn't matter...everything still has to cycle and balance out. You have not had a cycle in this tank and that will cause all kinds of problems at some point.

Remove all the fish and coral and let this tank cycle properly. Then you will have the best chance possible at sustaining a reef long-term.

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[Noob]

I think you are missing the point on whether or not the stuff you used was "cultured" or not. Doesn't matter...everything still has to cycle and balance out. You have not had a cycle in this tank and that will cause all kinds of problems at some point.

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Totally agree, my 55g had been up and running since late 06' so everything was well cultured, but i still had to cycle. Any big changes will cause a tank to at least run a mini cycle.

With the small amounts of coralline algae, I'd have to say this rock didn't come from an established reef.
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[zaquanh_09]

Powerheads need something covering the intake otherwise it's inevitable that the anem will catch it. Black pantyhose works great.

The color on your nem does not look good.

I think you are missing the point on whether or not the stuff you used was "cultured" or not. Doesn't matter...everything still has to cycle and balance out. You have not had a cycle in this tank and that will cause all kinds of problems at some point.

Remove all the fish and coral and let this tank cycle properly. Then you will have the best chance possible at sustaining a reef long-term.

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will do , and what do you mean as far as the color or the nem? its the same color it was when i got it , should it be diffrent? its really spanned out now

[allan]

The lackluster color is what Rob is talking about. At first I thought it was a condy because of the color. If you take a gander at the picture of the nem in my tank under allan's re rebuild, last page or so, you will see what a nem looks like when it's been hiding out for a few weeks. They get real light colored. Then when they get out in the light they tend to color up a bit. Mine are actually a nice light purple with reddish glowing tips.

Yours is a green nem, if I can guess from the pics, just severly undertoned which implies poor health or lack of light.

[allan]

I'd have taken a moment before buying that BTA... if it were that color in the LFS. Nems are pretty hardy when established, but getting a new nem is always a chance it won't fare well. That picture of him on the glass looks good, save for the washed out coloration.

Not out of the woods though. I believe they can look good for an hour or so, deflate and mouth gap open, re-inflate and look like they're rebounding, then they tank. It's a rollercoaster ride. I'd not feed it if I were you. I used to feed mine, but they look like crud afterwards. Bill says it all the time, don't feed your nem and it will grow and be happy on what it can get from the water column on its own.

[Mr Cob]

From the pics you posted it looks luminescent which is normally a bad sign... in most cases... undernourished, declining etc. My hammer coral recently did the same thing when I moved it from the 220g to a 85g. Been a pain trying to nurse it back.

Perhaps it's just the pics and the blue tint of the lighting but it doesn't look healthy IMO. It is definitely open though but I think that's a result of the anem trying to search for a sweet spot in the tank. Since it's moving around I suspect it will continue to do so until it finds a happy place which I don't believe it will find because the tank is not mature enough to sustain an anem right now.

I could always be wrong...just posting first impressions and giving you some thoughts to consider based on my experience.

[Mr Cob]

lol, I thought condy too when I saw the first pic a few days ago or whenever it was.

[Sherita]

The nem is bleached out. It's not supposed to be white, it should be either green, tan, or red. Maybe pink, but not white.

Which means it was stressed when you got it, and has no hope of recovering in a new tank. In a well established reef tank it would most likely heal up just fine, but nems require very stable parameters in a very well established tank.

I'm sorry to say this, but the simple fact that you had to ask the question means you didn't research before purchasing. You do understand that when it dies there is a decent chance that the toxins will kill everything else in your tank, right?

You seem to be rather dead set against listening to what anyone is saying to you here. No one, and I mean NO ONE here would try to lead you astray. We are simply trying to keep you from making the same mistakes that many of us have made in the past.

Your tank has not cycled yet, and is not in balance. The cycle will greatly stress, and probably kill, most of the animals in the tank. Every one here wants to see new reefers succeed, so please listen to what you are getting for advice. I think every last one of us has made at least one bad mistake in our reefing lives, but we all learn from our mistakes. Here's your chance to learn from our mistakes and save yourself a lot of heartache and aggravation. Not to mention expense and loss of animal life.

Most folks offering you advice have years of experience in reefing, and have dealt with hundreds of gallons of saltwater over the years (and the mistakes that go with it). There are certain definitives in reefing. And no matter how much we wish to change them, we can't.

Edit: Your nem is most likely climbing up seeking light, which means your lights are probably not sufficient for it.

[hobogato]

yes, that bta is bleached. unfortunately without its hosted algae (zooxanthellae), it can not photosynthesize to make its own food and it will starve if you dont feed it. once it recovers and gets its color back, you wont need to feed it any more. having nursed a bleached nem back to health before, i would recommend feeding it small amounts of mysis shrimp once a week or so. i use a large syringe attached to ro pressure line to pipe them onto the oral disk of the anemone. a turkey baster will work as well

[Mr Cob]

your thread is getting a lot of attention...why don't you all take a PB&J break now, grab some tea and post some comments on my build thread... I need help too. lol I do actually, I don't know the best way to get a skimmer plumbed into my system in a new container. <big smile> (sorry for the high jack, just thought it would be a good opportunity to advertise for my lonely build thread lol) <another big smile for happy reefing>

[zaquanh_09]

The lackluster color is what Rob is talking about. At first I thought it was a condy because of the color. If you take a gander at the picture of the nem in my tank under allan's re rebuild, last page or so, you will see what a nem looks like when it's been hiding out for a few weeks. They get real light colored. Then when they get out in the light they tend to color up a bit. Mine are actually a nice light purple with reddish glowing tips.

Yours is a green nem, if I can guess from the pics, just severly undertoned which implies poor health or lack of light.

booo lol i see what you mean i looked back at some of the pics , and but gladly its getting acclimated better and finding its spot ,


I'd have taken a moment before buying that BTA... if it were that color in the LFS. Nems are pretty hardy when established, but getting a new nem is always a chance it won't fare well. That picture of him on the glass looks good, save for the washed out coloration.

Not out of the woods though. I believe they can look good for an hour or so, deflate and mouth gap open, re-inflate and look like they're rebounding, then they tank. It's a rollercoaster ride. I'd not feed it if I were you. I used to feed mine, but they look like crud afterwards. Bill says it all the time, don't feed your nem and it will grow and be happy on what it can get from the water column on its own.

yea i see that now lol , hopefully its because they just came in , the nem and the 2 maroons came in the morning. will stress take the coloration?



From the pics you posted it looks luminescent which is normally a bad sign... in most cases... undernourished, declining etc. My hammer coral recently did the same thing when I moved it from the 220g to a 85g. Been a pain trying to nurse it back.

Perhaps it's just the pics and the blue tint of the lighting but it doesn't look healthy IMO. It is definitely open though but I think that's a result of the anem trying to search for a sweet spot in the tank. Since it's moving around I suspect it will continue to do so until it finds a happy place which I don't believe it will find because the tank is not mature enough to sustain an anem right now.

I could always be wrong...just posting first impressions and giving you some thoughts to consider based on my experience.

true could be right , ill find out today when i go home lol , luckly it doesnt have open mouth , aside from color its looking better , im hoping it was stressed due to shipping and then 2 new tanks



The nem is bleached out. It's not supposed to be white, it should be either green, tan, or red. Maybe pink, but not white.

Which means it was stressed when you got it, and has no hope of recovering in a new tank. In a well established reef tank it would most likely heal up just fine, but nems require very stable parameters in a very well established tank.

I'm sorry to say this, but the simple fact that you had to ask the question means you didn't research before purchasing. You do understand that when it dies there is a decent chance that the toxins will kill everything else in your tank, right?

You seem to be rather dead set against listening to what anyone is saying to you here. No one, and I mean NO ONE here would try to lead you astray. We are simply trying to keep you from making the same mistakes that many of us have made in the past.

Your tank has not cycled yet, and is not in balance. The cycle will greatly stress, and probably kill, most of the animals in the tank. Every one here wants to see new reefers succeed, so please listen to what you are getting for advice. I think every last one of us has made at least one bad mistake in our reefing lives, but we all learn from our mistakes. Here's your chance to learn from our mistakes and save yourself a lot of heartache and aggravation. Not to mention expense and loss of animal life.

Most folks offering you advice have years of experience in reefing, and have dealt with hundreds of gallons of saltwater over the years (and the mistakes that go with it). There are certain definitives in reefing. And no matter how much we wish to change them, we can't.

Edit: Your nem is most likely climbing up seeking light, which means your lights are probably not sufficient for it.

asking questions is a great place to start no matter how much research has been done , and as far as lighting im running 175 mh and 2 48in 110w vho's

and ps i work 10 hour days i cant read your post on here then start pulling stuff out the tank , so although i appreciated all the help that is given dont think that im just bored on here making everyone type this stuff for nothing ,

and yes i understand what happens when an anemone is stressed dying or dead , altho it looks bad the ammonia levels are not at a bad level


yes, that bta is bleached. unfortunately without its hosted algae (zooxanthellae), it can not photosynthesize to make its own food and it will starve if you dont feed it. once it recovers and gets its color back, you wont need to feed it any more. having nursed a bleached nem back to health before, i would recommend feeding it small amounts of mysis shrimp once a week or so. i use a large syringe attached to ro pressure line to pipe them onto the oral disk of the anemone. a turkey baster will work as well

i already have 2 other anemones in the tank as well , there small but i was feeding them frozen brine and the fish had a mix od blood worms and brine , and since i have the lights mounted the anemone will get to its area that it likes , i have feed it mysis to all in the tank , the bta has only eatin a small amount so far but i use a turkey baster and squirt food in its area and let it eat , the other 2 anemones love it and are growing

[zaquanh_09]

and some off topic from my event in ft. worth


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[Sherita]

What do you mean by your ammonia levels aren't at a bad level?

I don't expect you to leave work and pull stuff out, we all gotta work, that's how we support this hobby :)

[Flyride95]

Man im just happy he's getting it from everyone and not me lol. Dont worry man we all make mistakes. My cage is just running water and I hate it so much. But after 2-3 more weeks ill be able to add things. Something ive learned here is you have to run the opening cycle. Ammonia > Nitrite > Nitrate. Only when ammonia and nitrite are at 0 and nitrates are up is when you can add fish. Your system has to be able to take the waste they make and turn it into nitrite > nitrates. Hopefully your guys make it while your tank cycles into place.

[allan]

Those other nems are the rock nems, right? I think one was standing a bit high on its foot, but it was a rock nem, right? If so, those are some incredibly hardy nems. On par with aptasia in my book as far as durability.

A bad level for ammonia is any measurable amount. If you can measure it, it's bad.

[zaquanh_09]

Man im just happy he's getting it from everyone and not me lol. Dont worry man we all make mistakes. My cage is just running water and I hate it so much. But after 2-3 more weeks ill be able to add things. Something ive learned here is you have to run the opening cycle. Ammonia > Nitrite > Nitrate. Only when ammonia and nitrite are at 0 and nitrates are up is when you can add fish. Your system has to be able to take the waste they make and turn it into nitrite > nitrates. Hopefully your guys make it while your tank cycles into place.


this is what makes me confused but when i see things and im looking at my levels , my stuff is where it should , no i dont have the best filtration but the chemistry is right

[350gt]

What u mean you can't set up a tank in a couple of days then add live stock?

A couple on here believe it can happen....... Lol

I kid, I kid.....

My opinion...

If your in this for the long run.. Then listen to advice given by ppl who have posted in here.. It's not as simple as it seems and sure your fish my live for a bit but you will learn that patience is key.... Either that or you will learn that it cost alot to keep replacing live stock...

Thats why most don't last in this hobby.....

[zaquanh_09]

What do you mean by your ammonia levels aren't at a bad level?

I don't expect you to leave work and pull stuff out, we all gotta work, that's how we support this hobby :)

lol i was using a test pad thingy , but 0 ammonia , i have to stop by and get some more accurate testers ,

[zaquanh_09]

Those other nems are the rock nems, right? I think one was standing a bit high on its foot, but it was a rock nem, right? If so, those are some incredibly hardy nems. On par with aptasia in my book as far as durability.

A bad level for ammonia is any measurable amount. If you can measure it, it's bad.


yea they have survived through everything , unfortunately no one knows what they are , my guess is rock anemone , they have moved or spawned more or did anything crazy , now that i have light and better food though , they are growing

[Sherita]

What is your nitrate and nitrite level?

Get regular test kits for your tank, those test strips are notorious for being really inaccurate. API makes good kits, as do several other companies.

BTW, if the rock nems you have are like some, they are NPS so you will need to feed them regularly.

[zaquanh_09]

What is your nitrate and nitrite level?

Get regular test kits for your tank, those test strips are notorious for being really inaccurate. API makes good kits, as do several other companies.

BTW, if the rock nems you have are like some, they are NPS so you will need to feed them regularly.

i dont remember but ill check tonight , i used to keep track on this website but that was when i had the 10 gal

im going to alamo aquatic after work to get another water pump . ill probably get a test kit when i go

and yea they get sad when i dont feed them , luckly mysis likes to float around so i dont always have to spot feed them

[zaquanh_09]

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the camera makes the colors wierd , its actually green now , anenome disappeared for about a day then came back back out and then the clown found him lol finished up my new sump setup and moved the heater .

[zaquanh_09]

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[Zack]

Very clean wiring. I wish my sump looked that neat lol

[zaquanh_09]

thanks ,

[zaquanh_09]

so ive been working alot latley and just got a truck , finaly got around to do my ussual walk around ,

im starting to get green alge on stuff , and alot of diatoms , i got more cleaner crew , and some started taking care of it ,


all of my snails are going to the top in the corners of my tank , why . my ph levers are a bit high need to get something to bring them down today. what can i use to bring it down , i was going to go alamo aquatics and see there suppliments

it looks like its all my new snails that i got within the last couple days.

even the water is starting to get a green hint ,


i change the filter last night to one layer of the blue filter , black carbon filter , then another blue filterpad ,

all the fish and the anenomes are happy , i took out the bta .

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

i was leaving the white mh with blue Actinic light in vho 8 hours or so and had blue Actinic light vho at 24 hours , so figure just way to much ,

turned the blue and white on the same time for 8 hours together , the rest dark

[koa25]

Wow, Yeah VHO for 24 hours in no good. You need rest periods for your inhabitants. You can pick up cheap moonlight leds off amazon for like 20 or 30 bucks so you can have night viewing. you can kick the light cycle up eventually. My MH's are on for 10 hrs. My actinics are on 13 hr's and my moonlights are on for 3 hours prior and after my lights go out.

[allan]

Looking good dude.

[zaquanh_09]

wats up with the snails should i be worried. are they doing this because of the ph levels rising? its only the snails i just got

[zaquanh_09]

my 0 amonia and good on nitrites and mabye a little bit high on nitrates

[zaquanh_09]

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[ErikH]

Looks better, just keep adding rock and stop adding fish until you get as much rock as you need.

[zaquanh_09]

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stuff works good so far

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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i want whiter lights

[Mr Cob]

looking good, this pic the color temp looks good:

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The other pics look really blue...I was thinking your phone or camera was picking up all that blue.

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

sorry kinda dirty was finishing up some maintenance stuff

[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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[zaquanh_09]

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[Mr Cob]

looks like everything is doing well.. how's it going?

[zaquanh_09]

yea every really good so far , had a bad chemical immbalance over the weekend , lost the tang , but was able to bring them down , , still looking to get brighter mh bulbs eventually

[zaquanh_09]

so its been a while , lost my job , things went down hill still heading down but with a better job yet trying to save , so we will see ,

anyways my tank slowly dwindles yet still interest me yet the price on upkeep still hurts sadly altho it is very cheap :(

anyways here are some pics ,




on with the pics
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I have this but i still cannot seem to get a good pic of it
http://www.reefkeeping.com/joomla/images/magazine/fish/sept09/3.jpg

still have my 2 clowns , anemone blue hippo died tho

she had ick , I was able to take her out and quarantine her but i think she lasted for about a month after then i found her on the floor outside of the tank ,

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uploading more pics but will post when they come in , hope everyone is doing well , if you guys have any spare salt that i could use i would greatly appreciate it , pretty sure my fish are only happy because the tank atmosphere is keeping things stable , but the amount of fresh what i top off with will change that very soon :(





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[zaquanh_09]

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[jupiterbunny]

Looks good quan

[zaquanh_09]

thanks lisa