Maggie Muffler!!!

[sergiotami]

Looking into purchasing one possibly..... Anyone have one or use one and is the difference at great???

[Big_Pun]

I used one in a hang on back overflow it was very quiet. aquarium design sells them last I saw... which was last year lol

[Teeb]

I'm wanting to use one on my new build, but haven't seen one in person yet. I'm curious as well.

[sergiotami]

I ordered one last night... Will post as soon as I install and let ya know if it was worth the funds I paid....:)

[sergiotami]

Update!!!! I got my "Maggie Muffler" today... Its easy to assemble, all you need is a 1" pvc pipe cut to length....I paid a little less than $15, pulled the old pipe out that came w my tank and installed it.... LOL, I'm laughing because in less than 10 minutes I pulled it out and put my old pipe, it made a slurping sound, not loud but audible as to where my old oceanic pipe all you can ear is the sound of the return into my sump.... Glad I'm only out $15, if anyone wants to try it, its available, make me an offer and its your's....:)

[rrasco]

Personally, especially on a new system, I would not rely on a single drain anyways; they are unsafe and loud. Go with a bean system if you can. Quiet and safe.

[Big_Pun]

Personally, especially on a new system, I would not rely on a single drain anyways; they are unsafe and loud. Go with a bean system if you can. Quiet and safe.

most aquarium manufactures only offer their reef ready tanks with a drain and return. nothing wrong with it if you take the time out to make sure guards are in place and you do regular maintence.

[rrasco]

That's the problem though, what safe guard is there against your drain clogging? I guess you could install a float switch, but that's more equipment IN the tank. The only real way to avoid a drain clogging would be to have a backup or two. Maintenance is the only real deterrent, but even that won't prevent a snail from clogging the drain.

The bean method is not only safe, if setup correctly, is absolutely quiet. For what it's worth, my DSA tank came with 2 drains and 2 returns, that was one of the reasons I went with it. I turned the 2nd return into a dry emergency. And while we're talking about it, I'm not thrilled that most manufacturers only offer two holes per overflow either.

Having said that, I have never had an issue with my single drain HOB overflow on my 29, but that doesn't mean I won't in the future.

[Big_Pun]

if a snail can get thru my guards on durso its not big enough to clog the drain and will end up in my filter sock. yes redundancy is nice but it doesn't mean you can't have a single overflow work flawlessly like a bean animal is suppose to. my last tank was a DSA 70g and it only had 1 return and one drain had no problem for 2 years.

[kkiel02]

My overflow kits have screens on them to cover the drain pipe. This prevents any snails from getting stuck in there. I think mine was a megaflow??? Actually I think all my tanks have had this screen though. Then again I always back up my back ups and have my pump section of the sump very low so if for some reason water stopped draining the pumps couldn't suck up any water to pump up to the tank. I know I have a somewhat unique situation with my tank though and this might not work for everyone but I would have 100% confidence in the screens. Now that I said this Im going to knock on wood and check on my tank. LOL

[rrasco]

Like I said, even I have a tank with a single drain that has not had problems. Two of them actually. So I fully understand they can function for long periods of time without issue, but it does happen. Even with screens, they can get clogged with things growing in there and unless you keep up with regular maintenance as you said, you won't know it's clogged until it's too late.

Not to discredit piece of mind, but the biggest draw for me with bean is the noise. I've tried every method out there on a single drain, nothing can scientifically work the way a bean drain does; well, except a herbie which I believe is mainly a bean without a dry emergency and still a 2 drain system. You can muffle it (wonder where MM got their name?) or restrict the flow, but you can't silence it. On a bean, both drains work together to handle the flow and the noise. I seriously can't tell this tank is running. I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just sharing what has worked for me.

[kkiel02]

I like the bean system as well. Just meant to give ideas on other ways to stop overflowing the tank. If I had a chance to build another tank I would probably go the bean route. You can flow more water with a smaller pipe I believe.