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BBQHILLBILLY
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 06:20 AM
where can I find inexpensive camera for coral shots under blue LEDS and I want to save money too so I can buy other Christmas gifts



I hope Im in the right spot otherwise you have my permission to move me:bigsmile:

Merry Christmas

350gt
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 09:47 AM
What's your budget....

Mr Cob
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 10:04 AM
honestly, I've been super impressed with my smartphone, it has an 8MP camera, it's a Samsung Galaxy II, 4G Epic Touch and takes HD video. The iPhone 4S also has a 8MP camera as well and takes just as great shots.

I think those are good solutions for cheap cameras that take pretty decent shots and go with you everywhere.

Examples:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6455985829_0e38626c34.jpg
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6215/6300660042_0647da46aa.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7031/6495544671_bc68cf03a3.jpg


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6111/6292508111_768b1812f8.jpg

350gt
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 10:21 AM
Don't think he wants to sign up for a 2 yr contract to take some pics... Lol but those are impressive for a camera phone..

Mr Cob
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 10:32 AM
well...I wouldn't either...but if I was in the market for a new phone soon then I would consider holding off on purchasing a cheap camera and just get a good smartphone with a good camera.

rrasco
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:01 PM
He said under blue LEDs...I'm pretty sure some actinics would freak a camera phone out. Simply put Shane, not sure you can. I don't have anything to test on yet (I will soon) but you need a camera advanced enough to let you mess with the color balance. Not even sure how to do that on my DSLR yet because I have not had to. When looking for a camera I quickly learned that anything 'decent' gets pricey, quick. Just like reefing!

Regric25
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:18 PM
A good entry level DSLR camera will run you around $500 to $700. You can always buy a camera. Take very good care of it, test it out and if you like it, keep it. If you don't, return it. :) Really the best thing to do is adjust the white balance in the camera. If that is not possible then sometimes you can mess with it in post processing. I use PSE9.

Mr Cob
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:20 PM
He said under blue LEDs...I'm pretty sure some actinics would freak a camera phone out. Simply put Shane, not sure you can.



lol, mine are under LEDs and MH together.

Also my phone allows me to adjust the white balance, among other things like taking panoramo photos, ISO, metering, outdoor visibility, effects, resolution, anti-shake, guidelines, review, image quality, GPS atg, blink detection, auto contrast, timer, focus mode, scene mode, LED flash, self portrait....LOL! It's pretty sick.

Regric25
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:25 PM
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Regric25
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:28 PM
Dang Rob who needs an expensive camera when you have a camera like that!!! :D Mine is pretty advanced too. Its impressive how far camera phones have come in the last decade.


This just comes down to what you want out of it. If you want sweet sweet detailed and advanced pictures and complete quality control you will have to spend a little bit of money for a quality camera. If you just want pics to get the point across and show some color use your camera phone. They do take decent pics but its a whole different ball game using a DSLR.

Here are some examples of a DSLR camera photo. The top 2 are under LED actinics.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/REGRIC252006/10-01-201126.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/REGRIC252006/10-01-201118.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/REGRIC252006/DSC_8260.jpg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n269/REGRIC252006/DSC_8419.jpg

Mr Cob
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 12:33 PM
yeah, it's awesome for a cheap solution and it takes quality pics for people like me but like I said it's no replacement for a professional or a solid camera. I would say it competes with cameras under the $500 range.

rrasco
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 02:02 PM
lol, mine are under LEDs and MH together.

Also my phone allows me to adjust the white balance, among other things like taking panoramo photos, ISO, metering, outdoor visibility, effects, resolution, anti-shake, guidelines, review, image quality, GPS atg, blink detection, auto contrast, timer, focus mode, scene mode, LED flash, self portrait....LOL! It's pretty sick.

Camera phones are awesome now-a-days, no doubt. I took some 'product photos' with my HTC Incredible a year or so ago...and I think that is only 5MP, the camera on my EVO is even better at 8MP. At any rate, try turning off all the whites you have and taking a picture under just the blue LEDs, I have not had any experience yet, but I've heard it's extremely difficult to compensate for the blues. We'll see after I build my LED fixture.

tony
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 05:22 PM
remember, fancy cameras dont take nicer pics (of course within limits)

educated photographers do

Regric25
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 05:38 PM
remember, fancy cameras dont take nicer pics (of course within limits)

educated photographers do

Yes A LOT of it is the photographer BUT comparing a DSLR to a Phone there is a BIG difference. You notice more ppl use their phone camers more. I do! Its because its ALWAYS with me. If you are trying to aquire a spectacular photo then use a dedicated camera such as a DSLR. If not (like me) use your phone.


A good example of cheap vs expensive... I had a Samsung HMX20 full HD camcorder that ran me about $800. It had all the bells and whistles and it took very very clear video. It even had a macro mode. I entered into a contest for Samsung and won a Samsung HMX-U10 slated as a full HD camcorder and compact that ran about $110 new. I comparaed the 2 and each camcorder had the same features just one was compact. I did a performance test and quickly realized why the U10 is so much cheaper. Although full 1080P HD the quality sucked.

You can use a phone and get okay pics but you cant compare it to a decent dedicated camera. I perfer to use a compact camera for a lot of photography but for a project or a photoshoot for a client I bring out the DSLR for the best quality and control possible.


Back on subject LOL What type of photos are you trying to achieve? I can tell you from experience taking pics in actinin LED only is a BIG challenge. The sensors in a camera just don't see it the way you do. Even tweaking the WB sometimes wont help. I noticed the camera reacts diferently to different bulbs in actinic. PC actinics are easier to photograph vs LED. If you have control you can add a little LED white to the LED actinics it will help and you will get the POP you are looking for when using actinic LEDs. Personally I try and get the WB fixed in the camera and then fully correct it in post processing. Even then correcting a very blue photo is hard at times. You can do a manual correction on the white balance if your camera allows it. With my camera I can do a manual WB correction by taking a picture of something that should be white (but looks blue under the actinics) such as sand. Then the camera takes that data and will correct the WB so that the blue is white. The only problem with this is that anything that is blue will look white or gray. Even corals. but it WILL pick up all the other colors such as pink, yellow, red, orange. and on and on.

alton
Wed, 21st Dec 2011, 05:46 PM
I saw an article somewhere about cheap camera sales are down abunch due to cell phone cameras becoming so much better. At my company I used to always pack a camera to take pictures of existing conditions, not anymore Iphone all the way.

rrasco
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 01:35 AM
Yes A LOT of it is the photographer BUT comparing a DSLR to a Phone there is a BIG difference. You notice more ppl use their phone camers more. I do! Its because its ALWAYS with me. If you are trying to aquire a spectacular photo then use a dedicated camera such as a DSLR. If not (like me) use your phone.

It's the difference in the camera sensor. Some are just simply better than others and you have to pay to get them. I didn't know what the hype was about DSLRs, until I bought one and saw the pictures it takes.

tony
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 10:12 AM
an slr doesnt automatically take beautiful pictures, a photographer with a point and shoot will beat a novice with an slr. this was my only point.

recommending an slr to everyone who asks for better pictures is just a craps shoot, if they arent willing to invest time into learning just photography basics they would be better off with a point and shoot and money in their pockets

Mr Cob
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 10:24 AM
recommending an slr to everyone who asks for better pictures is just a craps shoot, if they arent willing to invest time into learning just photography basics they would be better off with a point and shoot and money in their pockets

that's a great point. I'm a good example of that. I stink at taking pics and know nothing about photography where-as my wife is taking the time to learn. Rick gave her some pointers about 6 months ago and she has really advanced and has spent a lot of time on photography forums learning as much as she can. She got a new camera under her design business and is taking some amazing shots...much better than what I can achieve on my little phone BUT...when I use her camera I don't know what I'm doing so the pics come out way worse than what I can do on my phone.

tony
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 10:41 AM
this is an excellent resource and tough to beat for $16

http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-3rd-Photographs-Camera/dp/0817439390/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324568423&sr=1-10

Mr Cob
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 12:39 PM
thx!