View Full Version : Aiptasia -whatever it takes
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 12:56 PM
Blech. I ignored my own advice and used Aiptasia-X again -resulting in a lovely bloom of this stuff everywhere.
It's really getting me down now.
What fish will be guaranteed to eat this stuff? What are the draw backs of it?
Cammed_02
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 01:36 PM
I have had good luck with pep shrimp, you just have to find the right ones. Some ppl aren't too fond of them due to picking at some coral. The only time I saw one on a frag was when it was "cleaning" it, a few mins later it was off and the frag was fine.
FSU
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 01:56 PM
You used Apt X and it gave you more? I had a few pop up on my rock and I used peppermints as well. I think I only had like 3 of them and then a small piece of bubble algae at the same time. I got nervous and added 8 emerald crabs and 6 peppermints...all gone!
Sorry for your problem....I know pests suck and are so much of a headache.
betiuminside
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:25 PM
I had a long nose butterfly that ate all my aptasia and after it was eradicated, she passed away! :(
Very sad, but it worked...
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:29 PM
I've been reading up on stuff. Seems like the butterflies are the way to go. So what's the drawback to butterly fish?
Kristy
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:30 PM
I do not understand the popularity of Aiptasia X. The only good thing about that product was the cool syringe. They must have an excellent marketing group behind them because all they did for me was make the aiptasia angry and determined.... to come back with his friends!
Peppermints did work - but only on the little baby ones. If you have any of the big papa ones, then I recommend hitting them with the syringe full of boiling hot lime juice stabbed way down into the body cavity. Or if it is on a rock that you can pull out of the water, flaming them with the old candle clicker is both effective and highly satisfying. Repeated applications for both those techniques may be necessary, but only a couple, and most likely because I missed some of them that were invisible.
Now, I have never had a super huge outbreak to deal with so my advice might be of limited use. But then again, I managed to get it before they got totally out of control, so maybe it IS of use! :)
Kristy
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:34 PM
Oh and we do have a long-nosed butterflyfish. So maybe that's why we haven't had too much trouble with them? But I've never seen it touch an aiptasia, so who knows....
We once set up a tank with some rock from another guy and it was full of aiptasia. A copperband butterfly mowed them down in short order.
Downside of butterflies: can be hard to get them eating, and even then can be not a very aggressive / thriving eater, but I am pretty confident in your ability to feed ANYthing so that shouldn't be too much concern. Also, can be hit or miss with bothering your corals.
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:38 PM
I am sort of tempted to buy a racoon from Inland:
http://www.inlandaquatics.com/info/faq_aiptasia.html
Kristy
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 02:59 PM
The raccoons are a nice looking fish!
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 03:11 PM
will they eat my cute little red feather dusters?
hobogato
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 03:26 PM
probably, and they may eat your gorgos too
Mr Cob
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 03:27 PM
I wouldn't chance a raccoon butterfly, why correct one problem with the chance of a new problem?
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350gt
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 03:31 PM
Aiptasia X worked for me... So I think. But I did notice a big aiptasia, I mean huge piece behind a rock.... Been sorta hesitant to get at this one.... He is almost as big as my tube anemone..
Might try the boiling water lime juice method this time.....
ErikH
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 04:14 PM
Boiling water always did the trick for me. Before I got to the aiptasia, I would slowly start to squeeze the syringe as to heat the area enough to hopefully kill anything that may eascape into the water column. Of course the aiptasia would retract, which at that time I would quickly go in for a kill shot. Never had an outbreak of it...
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 04:21 PM
I think a big part of why I grow these buggers so well is that I feed so frequently. The gorgos love cyclopeeze a few times a day and I see the aiptasia reach and eat it too I think.
Bill S
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 05:49 PM
I wouldn't chance a butterfly...
cbianco
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 06:32 PM
Karin, after a brief period of semi-neglect, my tank is teaming with aptasia. I tend to notice a trend, that when I let my tank gets "dirty" the aptasia multiply rapidly (IME).
I plan a three-fold attack on my aptasia problem:
1. 100% water change (well sort of). I will change 10 gallons of water three times over three days. Being that I have a 30 gallon this is not particularly difficult. This should significantly reduce any added bio-load from the neglect.
2. A deep cleaning of all my pumps, especially my skimmer pump. Circulatory pumps will also recieve a deep cleaning and my MP40 will receive a rebuild kit.
3. I've always had peppermint shrimp in my tank until lately. My peppermint of 2 years died. I plan to buy two replacement peppermints as I've typically had good luck with them eating aptasia.
Good luck with your battle!
Christopher :)
Meslo
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 09:36 PM
I would say any fish that eats aptasia is a risk to your dusters. Meat is meat ;)
Europhyllia
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 09:42 PM
ugh guess I'll be stopping at the feed store for a syringe. The 'needles' that came with the aiptasia-x are so blunt. you'd really have to find a big one and stap it hard to make it work...
joseph 78009
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 09:42 PM
I used a kiiens. Butterfly very hardy took care of massive aptaisa out break and stays away from corals a eat frozen food deadly
LuckySingh
Tue, 20th Dec 2011, 09:46 PM
I hve roughy about 2 hundreds of em and I gave up... They really hard to control but hve nuked em with boiling water and does work like charm
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Europhyllia
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 05:16 PM
wow Lucky, I can't imagine dealing with these in a tank with nice high end critters like yours.
well I picked up big syringes and 20 GA needles at the feedstore and I am going in now. I expect to be shooting up Aiptasia for the next 30 minutes. I am going with kalkwasser slurry since it doesn't matter if it cools down. Any last words before I get started?
cbianco
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 06:56 PM
Any last words before I get started?
"May the force be with you!" LOL, good luck nuking those suckers.
Christopher :)
LuckySingh
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 08:51 PM
wow Lucky, I can't imagine dealing with these in a tank with nice high end critters like yours.
well I picked up big syringes and 20 GA needles at the feedstore and I am going in now. I expect to be shooting up Aiptasia for the next 30 minutes. I am going with kalkwasser slurry since it doesn't matter if it cools down. Any last words before I get started?
been very bsy and lazy on this...i guess i got a specially take a day off and be on a mission killing aiptasia
Europhyllia
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 09:35 PM
Thanks Christopher. It was very gratifying to see the clear bodies fill up with the kalk. Right now it looks promising but we'll see what it looks like today.
I guess I should reserve 30 minutes a day to this to get it under control...
CoryDude
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 09:58 PM
I was going to suggest the kalk slurry. I've had a few show up so I've been hitting them with a kalk paste. I may even invest in one of those zappers Josh had.
LuckySingh
Thu, 22nd Dec 2011, 10:22 PM
how about a group buy for zappers:thumbs_up:
cbianco
Fri, 23rd Dec 2011, 12:01 PM
Thanks Christopher. It was very gratifying to see the clear bodies fill up with the kalk. Right now it looks promising but we'll see what it looks like today.
I guess I should reserve 30 minutes a day to this to get it under control...
So how did it go? How does the tank look today?
Christopher :)
rrasco
Fri, 23rd Dec 2011, 01:42 PM
By zappers are we talking about 1w lasers?
Europhyllia
Fri, 23rd Dec 2011, 04:17 PM
tnak looks good today but the new devil seeds are probably just taking hold in the rock right now to come back stronger and more plentiful than before! :nailbiting:
SoLiD
Fri, 23rd Dec 2011, 10:49 PM
I was going to suggest the kalk slurry. I've had a few show up so I've been hitting them with a kalk paste. I may even invest in one of those zappers Josh had.
Josh actually built that zapper. It was pretty effective and satisfying at the same time. What about this little guy. I have no knowledge about them, but maybe someone else does.
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CoryDude
Sat, 24th Dec 2011, 12:45 AM
But, what would they eat after the aptasia are gone?
kkiel02
Sat, 24th Dec 2011, 01:06 AM
I was thinking of getting some nudis but I thought you had tried them? Did yours get eaten or die off?
StevenSeas
Sat, 24th Dec 2011, 02:45 AM
That matted aka aiptasia eating file is what I used to get my 100+ in my 29 biocube gone. He ate them all within a week, and during that time however I drastically cut back my fish feeding habits so he would be forced to scavenge and pick at the rock work. I think that IA something that is overlooked often times is feeding fish or shrimp when you want them to erradicate a pest. The frozen we feed is just so much easier to get then having to work for it. Its like the drive thru at Mickey D's versus hunting and gathering food, one is much faster and easier... one is much harder bit natural.
Anyways I loved the job my Guy did.
BSJF
Sat, 24th Dec 2011, 09:27 AM
The problem I had in getting rid of mine is that I can't reach all the places that they were. They were all over the rock, in the overflow and the sump. Unless you get them all they will continue to spread. Fortunately, introducing several peppermint shrimp combined with the kalk treatment did the trick for me. And yes, kalk them every day until you haven't seen any for a while. The peps are pretty good at getting rid of those little tiny ones that are impossible to see and all the others that you can't reach. I kalk all the others so that they focus on those.
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