Murder by Wrasse ??? MIA Abalone/SeaHare

[Scream311]

Ok need some opinions or experiences.

My efforts were to mow down some hair algae and bryopsis that has been thriving in my reef water.

Tried Black Mollys = Current too strong they end up in Overflow Box
Different Tangs = Spoiled by Krill (tried starving them)
Molly Miller = Same as above

So I purchased a California Blue Spot Sea Hare munched very well on ALL Hair Algae then MIA after a few weeks
Then picked up an Abalone on FRIDAY ! As of yesterday he is now MIA ! Only 3 days

Could my Wrasse be Taking them out 1 by 1 ?

Inhabitants of 125 REEF :

Kole Tang
Fox Face
Flame Angel
Big Eye Squirrel
Yellow Tailed Damsel
Bangai Cardinal
Yellow Corris Wrasse
Melanurus Wrasse
Green brittle star,and some snails

Oh and an Army of Bryopsis !


Any helpful hints would be Great, as I am near taking down my whole reef and starting over...

[justahobby]

None of those seem likely. What are you parameters like. Are your powerheads covered?

[Kristy]

Both of those critters need a nice slow thorough acclimation or they won't make it...another possible problem. Your wrasses seem unlikely suspects to me.

[CoryDude]

It was Professor Plum. He did it in the library with the candlestick.

I don't see a likely culprit in your fish list. Agree with Kristy's opinion.

[CoryDude]

Any helpful hints would be Great, as I am near taking down my whole reef and starting over...

But, I do have experience with this part. Nothing is as frustrating as watching a nice, thriving reef tank being overrun by the green monster. It's like Jordy Verrill in Creepshow.

Personally, I went the way of starting over and haven't been happier. I lost most of my corals, but that can be avoided with careful planning.

[Big_Pun]

ok from recent experience with both, here what I just went through. I let my bio pellet reactor get a lil clogged and obstruct the tumbling(one month of this) because I was still feeding heavy and no other nitrate absorption I had a bad out break in hair algae and bryopsis. first you need to fix the source of nitrates, which for was reduce feeding and cleaning my reactor. then I used a combo of algae fix and Kent Marin tech m(bryopsis killer) . I dosed double the algae fix even triple sometimes what is recommended( do this slowly to see effects on your livestock) I had no I'll side effects to my livestock. you use the tech m to raise your mag to about 1600 and hold it there till you see bryopsis die. after a week of dosing I would get a tooth brush and scrub heavy problem areas and the stuff just comes off, and collected in my filter sock. any questions pm or call me james. be ready it takes a lot of tech m and it's a lil pricey, and remember test through out the treatment so nothing gets away from you.

[Scream311]

None of those seem likely. What are you parameters like. Are your powerheads covered?

Ammonia = 0 Ph = 8.2 Nitrite = 0 Nitrate = 20ppm and no I've got 2 Koralias and 2 AquaClears but no sign of them in there


Both of those critters need a nice slow thorough acclimation or they won't make it...another possible problem. Your wrasses seem unlikely suspects to me.

Well I drip line all of my Livestock (thanks Mr Cobs Acc Kit) and waited an 1 1/2 with Sea Hare and 45min with Abalone. Just came Home to find My Yellow Wrasse on the Floor. Damm Jumpers ! Had him for a Year and NOW he Jumps !


It was Professor Plum. He did it in the library with the candlestick.

I don't see a likely culprit in your fish list. Agree with Kristy's opinion.

Thanks for the lol Cory I needed that :-)


But, I do have experience with this part. Nothing is as frustrating as watching a nice, thriving reef tank being overrun by the green monster. It's like Jordy Verrill in Creepshow.

Personally, I went the way of starting over and haven't been happier. I lost most of my corals, but that can be avoided with careful planning.

Yea no kidding I feel like Screaming like in CreepShow ! This Green Blob has me on the Verge of doin just that and starting over !


ok from recent experience with both, here what I just went through. I let my bio pellet reactor get a lil clogged and obstruct the tumbling(one month of this) because I was still feeding heavy and no other nitrate absorption I had a bad out break in hair algae and bryopsis. first you need to fix the source of nitrates, which for was reduce feeding and cleaning my reactor. then I used a combo of algae fix and Kent Marin tech m(bryopsis killer) . I dosed double the algae fix even triple sometimes what is recommended( do this slowly to see effects on your livestock) I had no I'll side effects to my livestock. you use the tech m to raise your mag to about 1600 and hold it there till you see bryopsis die. after a week of dosing I would get a tooth brush and scrub heavy problem areas and the stuff just comes off, and collected in my filter sock. any questions pm or call me james. be ready it takes a lot of tech m and it's a lil pricey, and remember test through out the treatment so nothing gets away from you.

Thanks for the Personel Experience and Tip. I've considered Algae Fix and have Read a few Threads like the one Regric Started about Raising Mag with Kent Tech M but don't want to think about how much that's gonna cost me. Although Karin stated that she did not need much do get the job done...

[Scream311]

I'm goin to just assume for awhile that he has either burrowed into the sand as Troy Valentine has mentioned or that he is hiding in between deep rock caves I have with a full belly untill he's ready for food again as the LFS has mentioned

[Scream311]

haaaa ! the Infamous ABALONE LIVES !!!!


moved the Wave Maker around and Whom do i see Rummaging along the glass ?


http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/scream311/IMAG0717.jpg



Nice and Big now obviously doin his JOB

[Scream311]

would have been a good entry to POTM ! dang it lol

[profntbtr]

i used to service aquariums professionally, and i had serviced one tank for the better part of a year before i discovered their abalone, and it was about as big as a nerf football, and had come in as a hitchhiker on the live rock. They hide real well, as you have discovered. sea hares too, i had introduced one into a 60 gallon cube, and had presumed it dead after 3 months. 4 months later, i was gravel vac'ing when the tube filled with dark purple water, i stopped to investigate, and there was the sea hare stuck in my gravel vac, inking and angry, let him go, and didn't see him again for 2 months. It's truly amazing the camouflage some creatures have.

[Scream311]

Lol yea it def is amazing how they naturaly disguise themselves and do what they do best in the wild only in captive tanks. I can only hope that the sea hare is still somewhere in my reef

[hobogato]

on the briopsis, have you tried the peroxide thing? my dad had pretty bad briopsis and he started squirting peroxide on it in the tank with a medicine syringe and it is almost gone now in less than a month.

[ShAgMaN]

ok from recent experience with both, here what I just went through. I let my bio pellet reactor get a lil clogged and obstruct the tumbling(one month of this) because I was still feeding heavy and no other nitrate absorption I had a bad out break in hair algae and bryopsis. first you need to fix the source of nitrates, which for was reduce feeding and cleaning my reactor. then I used a combo of algae fix and Kent Marin tech m(bryopsis killer) . I dosed double the algae fix even triple sometimes what is recommended( do this slowly to see effects on your livestock) I had no I'll side effects to my livestock. you use the tech m to raise your mag to about 1600 and hold it there till you see bryopsis die. after a week of dosing I would get a tooth brush and scrub heavy problem areas and the stuff just comes off, and collected in my filter sock. any questions pm or call me james. be ready it takes a lot of tech m and it's a lil pricey, and remember test through out the treatment so nothing gets away from you.

+1,000,000

Tech m is the way to go for getting rid of bryopsis. However, I had no success with algae fix - I think it sucks but just my opinion. Chris is totally right on scrubbing as well. You have to keep on this, pretty much daily until it's gone......or it will be a nightmare.

[Scream311]

Yea guys ill have to upload a current pic To show . But yes the Bryopsis dips have worked like crazy ! Boyy What a Difference !