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Scream311
Wed, 16th Mar 2011, 09:27 PM
So theres a White Stain on My Trigger...

appears to be covering spots on both sides of my Hawaiian Black Trigger.

nothing has changed as far as diet or water parameters or stress, well i have noticed the belly on the trigger seems to be a bit bulgy and my Hippo Tang has been fliping her tail towards him more then usual.

any Clues ? or experiences ? ive attached some pics

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/scream311/IMAG0107.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/scream311/IMAG0135.jpg
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/scream311/IMAG0131.jpg

justahobby
Wed, 16th Mar 2011, 09:55 PM
Looks like he scratched himself up, but hard to tell.

Joe31
Wed, 16th Mar 2011, 10:25 PM
FLUSH IT!!!! lol.... no our fish gets the same way from rubbing against the rocks when hes going to sleep or rest.

Gseclipse02
Wed, 16th Mar 2011, 10:34 PM
FLUSH IT!!!! lol.... no our fish gets the same way from rubbing against the rocks when hes going to sleep or rest.

was he sleeping inside the tank or outside the tank again lol

Joe31
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 05:11 AM
was he sleeping inside the tank or outside the tank again lol


duh of couse in the tank on his water bed. LOL

g-ray
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 07:11 AM
lol thats funny. I have ready that a uv light makes them scratch on rocks alot however Its been awhile since I read that.

Scream311
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 07:48 AM
Looks like he scratched himself up, but hard to tell.

I know the pics are not of great quality but after spending much time with my face planted on the glass and observing the trigger he began to swim slower and closer to me sort of like a pet to his owner saying look lokk help me lol and it dosnt look like a scratch more like a stain ? Its weird I've never seen this before unless the skin of a trigger is coarser then other fish ?


lol thats funny. I have ready that a uv light makes them scratch on rocks alot however Its been awhile since I read that.

Gary I do run a UV on this tank.... thinking to prove a theory and shut it off to see what changes are made however again I've not noticed him scratching on rock work.

Joe and JT will you guys be the entertainment for the Frag Swap Meeting ? Cause your great at Fish Comedy Laughing My Tail Off !

ErikH
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 09:06 AM
Did you recently put new carbon in? Looks like it may possibly be HLLE?!

Scream311
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 09:20 AM
High Levels of what ? Lol what's HLLE Erik ?

And no carbon added

ErikH
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 09:32 AM
Head Line and Lateral Erosion

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/images/MHLLEAtlanticBlueTang2sm.jpg

ErikH
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 09:34 AM
freakin' RC

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-06/sp/index.php

theres a link to what its all about.

Kristy
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 10:41 AM
Hmmm... doesn't really look like typical HLLE to me though. More like a fungus or something? Bacterial infection?

I don't know what it is, but Mike has a trigger that has developed some horrible tumor-like growths on his tail, so if your trigger trouble doesn't get better maybe we should start up a diseased and disfigured trigger tank for the two of them (at your house)!

Scream311
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 11:11 AM
thanks for the Link to the Forum on RC. After reading it. I've got many many questions and theories as to what could be causing this or what it may be. It looks Similar to the photos on the forum. But I can't pin point what's causing this. And why this is the only fish affected. And it appears the biologist who started that thread have not come to a conclusion either.

Kristy yea that would be neat. To have a tank dedicated to the wounded and dis figuered. May be suitable for my 90 cube that will be Empty soon enough

Kristy
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 11:36 AM
The Reefkeeping article that Erik linked is one of the better ones out there on HLLE. Notice that carbon is only one of many other conditions known to be associated with this syndrome. To presume that running carbon causes HLLE is a pretty wild and oversimplified assumption. If you are interested in learning more about HLLE, the series of three articles that Steven Pro credits as sources for this article (by Terry Bartelme) were really great reading if you can find them!

Scream311
Thu, 17th Mar 2011, 12:02 PM
Thanks Kristy. Ill try looking that up