What the heck just happened to my acans and mussa?

[ZeroHour]

I finally TODAY moved my corals from my kiddos tank to my big tank. Acclimated them a few hours params all seem the same and everything seemed good.

Left for a few hours and all my acans etc are splitting at the mouths. They look like they are melting.

My trumpet as well.


I am seriously about to start fragging all this out and going to a fowlr on my big tank and call it good.

What would cause this all my params seem normal

Temp is stable around 79ish

Theres 4 chromis and a Tang in 65 gallons of water so bioload would seem an issue in my book.

I am at a loss here. The same thing happened a month ago when I put my big colonies in within hours they look like they are melting.

The palys I have in there seem fine nice and open, fish are all happy, GSP is starting to open.

What the heck should I look for?

[Europhyllia]

what parameters did you check?

[ZeroHour]

RO/DI water

PH 8.2 ish close

Dkh 6-7

Nitrate 0

Phosphate 0

im of ammonia tester but this is water change day and it was done a solid 6 hours before the corals were transitioned and everything else is happy.

Tank is clean and clear and fish are happy clams seem happy though one is still partially retracted hes open the other is half open which are what I would expect after being moved.

[StevenSeas]

did you test the salinity of the two different tanks? How long was the water mixing before the water change?

[ZeroHour]

salinity was a pinch higher in the DT 1.028ish vs 1.026

Water was temp matched in a bucket and cycled with koralias for 4 hours. No dosing going on.

[StevenSeas]

well there is your problem IMO your salinity was on the high side to begin with and then you added them to a decent amount higher salinity. It is a difference of about 2ppt which is a decent change.

[Gseclipse02]

.026 isnt that high IMO .028 is a bit out of my range but i tend to keep my g/fs tank around that for weeks at a time just because i tend to not want to top off her tank

[ZeroHour]

okay well this is loverly..I have no idea is wrong with my refractometer but it reads the same no matter whats in it.

I grabbed my old school hygrometer and checked and my tank was at 1.050 THEN grabbed my refractometer from the other room and checked it and sure as sheite. So I just did a partial freshwater change with my remaining RO and am bringing it down. Managed to nuke some corals thats for sure. Freakin bummer and an expensive sad one at that!

[ZeroHour]

Oh BTW FREE REFRACTOMETER its located somewhere in the field next to my house most likely slightly bent from my easton bat.

Come get it

[Gseclipse02]

dang that sucks .... lmk if you need anything mang

[ZeroHour]

I have a safe harbor tank actually 2 of them but the one I put those new massive colonies in was off as well so not sure what I am going to lose there.

[StevenSeas]

WOW that sucks man. Hopefully most everything can recover and you dont lose too much. Remember even though your levels are way high it is better for them to be way high and slowly bring them down rather than to just dump in ro.

[ZeroHour]

Thats what I am doing just slowly briniging it back every few hours im adding some RO and removing some of the water. I wont lose much from the DT but what I lost is good stuff there. As for the other stuff I am working with we shall see nothing looks dead just really ****ed off lol

Mainly acros and some yumas and zoas etc. Most look like they are ****ed but will recover

[ZeroHour]

actually they were from a tank that had a flatworm issue....I am starting to think that combined with dipping should take care of them fur sureeee lol

[SoLiD]

Sorry this happened to you, but I hear that story all the time with refractometers. Thats why I always keep this handy to double check.

http://c2.f3images.com/IMD/250/AM1437/AM1437_1.jpg

American Marine Pinpoint Salinity Calibration Fluid Calibration Solution (http://www.marinedepot.com/American_Marine_Pinpoint_Salinity_Calibration_Flui d_Calibration_Solution_for_Testing_Equipment-Pinpoint_Monitors-AM1437-FITECL-vi.html)

[ErikH]

Good luck, those corals have been through it all, so don't be surprised if they all live. :)

[FireWater]

Sorry to hear it. Sounds like you are doing the right thing already. Just slowly bring the salinity back down. Like some have already said - you might be surprised by what makes it through and survives.

If you need anything you know where to find me.

[ZeroHour]

Ya thanks guys, Erik if I kill some im sorry lol.

The clams are fine actually most of it is okay. The acros took it hard. I fragged some and have some off that big lovelli. We will see what makes it through and what doesnt. Its my stupidity. They have all been dipped once already as well.

I feel bad that I hurt the stuff dont really care about the money. We will see

[Europhyllia]

David I use the same one to calibrate. 35ppt fluid from Pinpoint. Most refractometers only come with the 0 ppt fluid for calibration.

Shame you threw it away. It's likely it just needed calibration

[ZeroHour]

ya I had a lapse of patience moment after a slough of other issues that arose with trying to get set up to clean up those other corals. It wasnt a good one at least lol. Came from ebay in a group of stuff and I had seen them for ike 9$ on there.

I still have my good one and yes I did check it with my fluid and its correct lol. The other one is collateral damage now

[ErikH]

Did you see any AEFW drop off during the dips? I am fairly certain the were only on the valida. Apparently they love prostratas, validas, and tolerate milles.

[Europhyllia]

well maybe the hypersalinity treatment at least killed the flatworms? ;)

[ZeroHour]

Well they may have been there I saw a few on the first dip but the hypersalinity killed all the stix. I was able to save a few frags but most all of em bit it. I have a few things cycling in water trying to see if theres any sign of life but I screwed the pooch on them.

Now everything else seems to be doing quite well.

I had a good cloud of flat worms on the first dip (planaria) but after that and the salt and then 2 more dips and a scrub on everything it looked pretty clean and happy. I toothbrushed most of it as well.

I took a chance and a bunch of it is in my DT now. I dipped in 3 parts and then scrubbed...So technically they got 9 dips. They went from Tropic Marin, to Flatworm Exit, to Lugos, to salt n scrub. to rinse, then to clean holding....I did this 3 times.

I also did 30% water changes every 12 hours on the cycling tanks I had going and anything I saw got scrubbed.

I have some stuff im still working on but I think most if it should be good to go. Like I said when I was there if I can save 10% of what I got from you and dont crash my system im coming out ahead.

[ZeroHour]

BTW I saw the worlds largest bristle worm actually 2 of them come out of that rock.....one was 5 inches long and the diamater of a sharpie. I got scared and had one of those moments where I thought about screaming like a little girl and hurling the rock across the room. Self control maintained I actually got him into a frag cup and checked him out with tweezers just because he was kinda cool..

Frag cup full of freshwater will absolutely make them dead in about .2 seconds.