nuked tank

[Big_Pun]

whats the best way to remove toxins. dang abalone died last night and killed all my fish. carbon big water change ??

[hobogato]

oh no! yep, carbon and a water change. you may also get some poly filter to help with the toxins.

[Europhyllia]

That's horrible. I'm so sorry. I had no idea they could do that. So sorry Chris :(

[ShAgMaN]

Man that sucks. I too had no idea this could happen so fast (from a mollusk) ...maybe we should make a list of species that can quickly nuke a tank (if we don't have one already).

[Kristy]

Oh my gosh... How did this happen? So sorry to hear this... Scary!

[allan]

**** Chris that really bites big time. Your manderin too?

If there's anything you need just holler.

[Big_Pun]

lesson for everyone when you notice thing not behaving as normal like coming out during the day, throw it away. so im at work, could only pull out some of the fish i could reach, the freaking abolone is in very back center of tank(of course) along with a couple dead fish. my scooter,starry, and my favorite red mandarin(rossi) are stressed but swimming. if just one fish makes it i hope its the mandarin. i cant do anything till around noon, had to take half day off. wow what a morning. lesson to everyone becareful of inverts.

[Big_Pun]

on a funny note(kinda) i bought a nice wrasse 3 days ago that i had not seen since putting it in, guess what, i found it dead this morn

[alexdmg]

That sucks bro, hit me up if you need anything.

-Alex

[danvan75]

sorry, let me know if you need anything.

[Big_Pun]

thanks everyone for the offers, i hope to be home by 12 and get this over with still need to pull out a couple fish thats are in back of rock work

[Gseclipse02]

lmk if you need anything im off today and only afew mins away

[Mike]

Scary since we have a big abalone also. Plus a couple of cucumbers... Wonder why it dying nukes the tank.

[Big_Pun]

Scary since we have a big abalone also. Plus a couple of cucumbers... Wonder why it dying nukes the tank.

ok I came home for lunch and now the abalone is missing. when I looked at 7am it was curled up in back of tank on the sand. my tank sits in front of a window.

[Big_Pun]

ok so after talking to my sister(mini reef geek) who helps with my tank. after I left she noticed I didn't turn on my return pumps, i turned them off last night to feed coral frenzy at about 1am, yea I'm up late and feed sometimes. so return pump off till about 7:30(when she noticed it and turned it on), vortech was still on. I did see abalone all shriveled up this morn(now it's missing). I have a huge clean up crew that had eaten most of a couple fish by this morn. starry, scooter, mandarin, watchman seem fine and swimming like normal right now, yellow wrasses hangin on.
all coral is fine nothing out of ordinary.

dead:

foxface
orange shoulder tang
clown
wrasse
chromi
firefish
neon dotty back
MIA coral beauty

[hobogato]

did you find the abalone's shell?

[Big_Pun]

did you find the abalone's shell?

that's exactly what I was looking for and nothing

[hobogato]

wow, maybe it is still alive then.

maybe the oxygen level in the tank dropped with the return pump off?

[Mike]

That was my thought also. I don't see why a dead abalone would pollute the tank after dying, anymore than something else dying. Do you get much water surface agitation from the vortech?

[Europhyllia]

question:
from what I've been reading Abalone need excellent water quality (or else they die) but nothing said it would kill everything else.
Would it be possible that something else caused the water quality to decline which killed the abalone and the fish were a victim of the same cause, rather than due to the abalone's death?

[Europhyllia]

sorry. I had that window open all morning but didn't hit reply until now so my reply comes kind of after that fact when you already noticed the return pump was off...

[Big_Pun]

in night mode the pump does slow down so surface aggitation is low, so with that many fish oxygen could have dropped. that makes sense.

[Big_Pun]

all surviving fish look fine. so sad I lost some nice fish, took me so long to find a clown that will host an anemone. I guess I get another clean slate to collect some nicer fish.

[Neptune@gabesfish]

From years of experience if your return pumps were turned off for about a total of maybe 6 hours caused all your fish to die maybe there was other issues with tank .. I have never seen fish die off that fast .. you had mp40 on and with just that they should have been able to live for days ..

[Big_Pun]

From years of experience if your return pumps were turned off for about a total of maybe 6 hours caused all your fish to die maybe there was other issues with tank .. I have never seen fish die off that fast .. you had mp40 on and with just that they should have been able to live for days ..

I know I did the same thing Saturday pumps where off like 5 hours maybe longer with no issues that's why I blamed the abalone. coral where not effected one bit.

[hobogato]

is it possible that the feeding you did made a film on the water surface that kept the tank from carrying out normal gas exchange.

[ErikH]

Never put it on night mode, the ocean doesn't sleep!

Sorry for your losses, I feel your pain. :(

[Europhyllia]

Never put it on night mode, the ocean doesn't sleep!


Yeah I got 4 MP40s on it and don't use nightmode. I also placed two of them deliberately pretty high up to really ruffle the surface to break up any potential film. Those two that are near the surface are the two to are hooked up to the back up battery.

The surface film thing seems plausible.

[cedrod]

Hey Chris forget about your abalone and your fish dying do you think your sister(mini reef geek) can help me with my tank also .J/k let me know if you need help with your water change.